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Re: The Guitar Topic
« Reply #4300 on: 15 Apr 2009, 06:19 »

what amp do you have just now?
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« Reply #4301 on: 15 Apr 2009, 07:06 »

You should have stabbed him in the junk.
Well we just kicked him out of the band. His decision re: the Silvertones was not the reason but a symptom of his overall suckiness which in fact WAS the reason. Of course being kicked out of my band might be considered doing him a favor?  :-o
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« Reply #4302 on: 15 Apr 2009, 10:05 »

^Were they original "Dano" Silvertones, or were they they new Samick copies? If they were the Samicks that's SLIGHTLY more forgivable, although equally as stupid.
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« Reply #4303 on: 15 Apr 2009, 10:58 »

Likely late 60's or early 70s. I know they were their first guitars and he's got a few yrs on me. At least they didn't get dumpstered. Some crackhead might drop them at a pawn shop.
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« Reply #4304 on: 15 Apr 2009, 02:16 »

^that's awful. Although, it's people like that that keep me checking out pawn shops. I found a 83 Kramer Pacer that probably ended up there about the same way.

On a completely different note, after fiddling around with that Vandenberg for a few days, I can fully say I'm in love with it, although it does have a few quirks. There are two volume knobs, but no tone, and the front volume operates the bridge. Kinda makes sense, though, when you think about it.
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Re: The Guitar Topic
« Reply #4305 on: 15 Apr 2009, 04:49 »

what amp do you have just now?

MG100DFX. The original one, not the newer one. I don't hate it or anything, but I just can't get quite the adjustability out of it that I know I can get out of that Fender (I've used the sucker before).

Also guys, I know most of you in this thread know how much Sonic Youth's treatment of instruments pisses me off, but this story is definitely heartwarming regardless.

This story isn't even over, he's only just attempted to contact the band within the last 10 hours or so (I didn't check the timestamp but that's the last time I was on OSG and the thread wasn't there at that point), so I'm really excited to see what happens.
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« Reply #4306 on: 15 Apr 2009, 06:01 »

I was gonna come in here and bring that up.

Such a cool story, I can't wait to see how everything turns out.
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« Reply #4307 on: 15 Apr 2009, 06:47 »

MG100DFX. The original one, not the newer one. I don't hate it or anything, but I just can't get quite the adjustability out of it that I know I can get out of that Fender (I've used the sucker before).[/quote]

Have you ever tried one of the Carvin tube combos? I've got an older one and the clean's amazing. Literally will play at 100W without distorting at all, if you want it. As good as any fender I've ever played. Plus you can choose on the back between 25, 50, and 100 watts. I'm not sure if their newer combos have them, but alot of the older ones had a built in five band eq you could assign to the different channels to get whatever overdrive type you want. Crazy versatile, since you could get the sound of a 100 watt combo cranked at 50W volume. Oh, and they're really cheap too, plus you can order them in whatever color tolex/tweed/faux leather you want for, something like, $20 extra.

They're not exactly easy to adjust to what you want, since there's so much there to mess with, but you can essentially get a Fender clean on one channel, and a Marshall overdrive on the other at the same time.
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« Reply #4308 on: 16 Apr 2009, 09:32 »

W :mrgreen:W re: Sonic Youth guitars. That was YEARS ago when they were stolen.
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« Reply #4309 on: 16 Apr 2009, 10:34 »

I forgot Fender ever made those funky Telecaster Basses in the 70s. Squier's got a reissue, and I want one so bad, right now.

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« Reply #4310 on: 16 Apr 2009, 11:01 »

I've wanted a singlecut tele bass ever since i first saw the one in this thread.
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« Reply #4311 on: 16 Apr 2009, 12:22 »

So guys, I think I'm gonna try to build a Partsmaster once I have some more scratch on hand. I've done the math and it wouldn't be too expensive (not much more than a thousand at most) and I'd be able to get it exactly how I want it. I'm thinking a Sonic Blue/Surf Green Warmoth Jazzmaster body, standard Warmoth Strat neck, Jazzmaster tremolo, brown tort pickguard, Mastery Bridge, mini-humbucker in the neck and a P90 in the bridge. I could imagine it being somewhat more than a regular Jazzy with such pickups, as well as there just being some interesting tonal possibilities in general.  I also think I would skip on the rhythm circuit for two reasons: first, it would probably be easier to wire that way, and second, I hardly ever even use the rhythm circuit on my Jazzmaster as it is, so it would be kind of pointless.

Somewhat ambitious, sure, but I feel like it's more than possible.
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Re: The Guitar Topic
« Reply #4312 on: 16 Apr 2009, 12:25 »

Have you ever tried one of the Carvin tube combos? I've got an older one and the clean's amazing. Literally will play at 100W without distorting at all, if you want it. As good as any fender I've ever played. Plus you can choose on the back between 25, 50, and 100 watts. (more stuff)

They're not exactly easy to adjust to what you want, since there's so much there to mess with, but you can essentially get a Fender clean on one channel, and a Marshall overdrive on the other at the same time.

Haven't even heard of it. The reason I want the Fender isn't just the clean channel, I love the distortion channel as well. I'm not a fan of super-saturated distortion, so I wouldn't really need something like what I think you're describing (and I've got my Tonebone for that anyway). When I go into a heavier distortion, I look for a sound like in "Helter Skelter" by the Beatles. Not too heavy, but it gets the job done.
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« Reply #4313 on: 16 Apr 2009, 01:56 »

I forgot Fender ever made those funky Telecaster Basses in the 70s. Squier's got a reissue, and I want one so bad, right now.


Cris Kirkwood from Meat Puppets played one when I saw them.
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« Reply #4314 on: 16 Apr 2009, 02:35 »

One of my friends plays on a Jag Bass and I love that thing so much I want to take up bass... or rather I just want to buy a Jag guitar.  I have a hard time actually deciding to save up for that or a tele though.  My Rickenbacker makes all the sound I've ever wanted from a standard setup Jag or Tele and better, but it would still be nice to have.  I've been considering getting a Les Paul Studio for a HH guitar, but between that and the Rick my arms would fall off after a show.  Anymore I'd rather just stand up there with my Dano, jumping around and wailing on it with all the extra energy I have.  Damn that thing is light.
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« Reply #4315 on: 17 Apr 2009, 12:16 »


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Haven't even heard of it. The reason I want the Fender isn't just the clean channel, I love the distortion channel as well. I'm not a fan of super-saturated distortion, so I wouldn't really need something like what I think you're describing (and I've got my Tonebone for that anyway). When I go into a heavier distortion, I look for a sound like in "Helter Skelter" by the Beatles. Not too heavy, but it gets the job done.
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Yeah, I understand that completely. They can approximate all kinds of sounds, but if you know what you want, why settle for the "store brand?"

Most of the reason why people haven't heard of them, or tried them, is because they sell direct, so NO music store will carry them. Our local music store won't even buy them used. They get great reviews though, and they've been around forever, so I have no reason to doubt them. But, I bought mine from a pawn shop, so I had the advantage of "try before you buy."
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« Reply #4316 on: 17 Apr 2009, 03:13 »

I've wanted a singlecut tele bass ever since i first saw the one in this thread.

whaaaaat


I love singlecut basses so hard
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« Reply #4317 on: 17 Apr 2009, 05:14 »

what amp do you have just now?

MG100DFX.

Cool, I have the MG50DFX, the old one as well. I know what you mean, it's hard to get different sounds out of it. I was actually thinking of selling mine and getting a valve amp but after trying some out in shops yesterday I think I'm just going to stick with it. At least with a solid-state one I can play at bedroom levels and still get the same sound.
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« Reply #4318 on: 19 Apr 2009, 12:08 »

So boys and girls, I'm looking to get a new set today for a reasonable price. I currently have an acoustic washburn and I was curious of what brands you guys adore. I had 10' elixirs for about four months the only problem I had with them was how long it takes to wear them in; any thoughts?

Oh here's a picture of my guitar, if that helps.



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« Reply #4319 on: 20 Apr 2009, 10:24 »

http://burlington.craigslist.org/msg/1128629364.html

Ampeg bass head, $220.

I want it so hard, even though I don't have a bass yet.
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« Reply #4320 on: 20 Apr 2009, 02:21 »

JESUS FUCK

can that guy ship? shit i will pay like the 100 dollars for shipping for that thing because fuck that means 300 bucks for an ampeg bass head OH SHIT
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« Reply #4321 on: 20 Apr 2009, 04:48 »

Keep in mind it's solid-state and only a few hundred more new.
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« Reply #4322 on: 20 Apr 2009, 05:28 »

oh shit you guys oh shit IT HAS PAINT ON IT NOW

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« Reply #4323 on: 20 Apr 2009, 06:17 »

Keep in mind it's solid-state and only a few hundred more new.

hey man i can't afford tube right now, as much as i'd love it.
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« Reply #4324 on: 20 Apr 2009, 07:00 »

oh shit you guys oh shit IT HAS PAINT ON IT NOW

Jeph, if you don't make some kind of audio demo of this thing when it's done there will be multiple levels of hell to pay.
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« Reply #4325 on: 20 Apr 2009, 09:51 »

Keep in mind it's solid-state and only a few hundred more new.

I've never really noticed the difference with bass guitars.  A majority of the bass amps I've seen are solid state.

Also: I want to trade my Strat and some monies for this:



A better Squire.  Until I someday have enough money for a real Fender or something.
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« Reply #4326 on: 21 Apr 2009, 11:21 »

Hey, quick question, has anyone on here played an epiphone coronet? I've been toying around the idea of building a set-neck one with the bat wing headstock and single hum bucker, like the one Paul Gilbert used to use. I may not make it in as wild a color as he used. I'm just kinda intrigued by it, but don't wanna shell out $3000 for an original, or buy a cheap Korean one with a bolt on neck and the wrong tone woods.

EDIT: So I bought this AXYS slide and it came in the mail today. It's open on one side and has inserts sized to your fingers, so you can turn the slide and still use your finger for regular fretting. Anyone who wants to play slide and not lose the use of their finger should at least look at it.
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« Reply #4327 on: 22 Apr 2009, 01:47 »

Keep in mind it's solid-state and only a few hundred more new.

I've never really noticed the difference with bass guitars.  A majority of the bass amps I've seen are solid state.

I think that it's less an issue with bass than it is with guitar.  With guitar the differences are usually very noticeable, and pretty much any guitar will sound better through tubes (there are obviously exceptions).  With bass though, I think it's more of a preference thing.  My bass player has used both, everything from a '69 Bassman stack to what he has now, a little (but extremely powerful) Markbass 1x12 combo.  While you probably won't be able to replicate the rumble of an old tubed SVT stack with a solid state, you'll most likely be able to get smoother, tighter tone (again, it's all dependent on what amp you're using).  It just depends on what you want.
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« Reply #4328 on: 22 Apr 2009, 11:41 »

Keep in mind it's solid-state and only a few hundred more new.

I've never really noticed the difference with bass guitars.  A majority of the bass amps I've seen are solid state.

I think that it's less an issue with bass than it is with guitar.  With guitar the differences are usually very noticeable, and pretty much any guitar will sound better through tubes (there are obviously exceptions).  With bass though, I think it's more of a preference thing.  My bass player has used both, everything from a '69 Bassman stack to what he has now, a little (but extremely powerful) Markbass 1x12 combo.  While you probably won't be able to replicate the rumble of an old tubed SVT stack with a solid state, you'll most likely be able to get smoother, tighter tone (again, it's all dependent on what amp you're using).  It just depends on what you want.

I'd always heard alot of the major benefit of tube amps was that over driven tones were warmer and fuller sounding, due to the tubes warming up. Since I'm guessing that distortion isn't the primary concern of most bass players, that could be one reason why I see so many more solid state bass amps. If you don't NEED tubes, then there's alot of good reasons to use solid state, particularly maintenance and durability.
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« Reply #4329 on: 23 Apr 2009, 07:22 »

Hey, quick question, has anyone on here played an epiphone coronet? I've been toying around the idea of building a set-neck one with the bat wing headstock and single hum bucker, like the one Paul Gilbert used to use. I may not make it in as wild a color as he used. I'm just kinda intrigued by it, but don't wanna shell out $3000 for an original, or buy a cheap Korean one with a bolt on neck and the wrong tone woods.

EDIT: So I bought this AXYS slide and it came in the mail today. It's open on one side and has inserts sized to your fingers, so you can turn the slide and still use your finger for regular fretting. Anyone who wants to play slide and not lose the use of their finger should at least look at it.

Played? No. But I've seen a vintage one up close, and they're beautiful. If you build one, DEFINITELY go with the batwing headstock. Epi really needs to find more uses for that design, it's outstanding.

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« Reply #4330 on: 23 Apr 2009, 08:14 »

over driven tones

warmer and fuller sounding

isn't the primary concern of most bass players

Fuck all of these people.

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« Reply #4331 on: 23 Apr 2009, 09:48 »

over driven tones

warmer and fuller sounding

isn't the primary concern of most bass players

Fuck all of these people.

Addendum: Listen to Black Rebel Motorcycle Club and DFA 1979.

Sorry if I offended you, I don't play bass and I was just going from what I heard.
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« Reply #4332 on: 23 Apr 2009, 09:53 »

Hey, quick question, has anyone on here played an epiphone coronet? I've been toying around the idea of building a set-neck one with the bat wing headstock and single hum bucker, like the one Paul Gilbert used to use. I may not make it in as wild a color as he used. I'm just kinda intrigued by it, but don't wanna shell out $3000 for an original, or buy a cheap Korean one with a bolt on neck and the wrong tone woods.

EDIT: So I bought this AXYS slide and it came in the mail today. It's open on one side and has inserts sized to your fingers, so you can turn the slide and still use your finger for regular fretting. Anyone who wants to play slide and not lose the use of their finger should at least look at it.

Played? No. But I've seen a vintage one up close, and they're beautiful. If you build one, DEFINITELY go with the batwing headstock. Epi really needs to find more uses for that design, it's outstanding.



Yeah, I always thought they were a cool alternative to the sg, in size, material, etc... I think the one's that Gilbert played were made for him by Ibanez, though. He had alot of really weird, funky, designs before settling on the rg shape, like every other endorsee they have. Have you ever seen the 36 fret Danelectro he played? But yes, I'll definitely use the batwing headstock, that's the best part. I kinda considered using it as the first set-neck design I'd make, just because it seems easier than something like a Les Paul.

Edit: I would also totally take that sky blue Kramer, behind the Les Paul. LOVE Kramer guitars.
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« Reply #4333 on: 23 Apr 2009, 10:46 »

A guy on OSG has a '63 Airline project for sale for $300. Just needs pickups and a 3-way switch. I'm seeing if he'll put it on hold for me. I really want to get a 5 watt tube amp this summer, but uh..



I like this even more than the 3 pickup Eastwood version, and they want $700.

ETA: On hold! I'm hoping I'll have it by late June.
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« Reply #4334 on: 23 Apr 2009, 12:46 »

Man I honestly don't really like the original Airlines and Maps as much as the Eastwoods. Major cool points though.
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« Reply #4335 on: 23 Apr 2009, 02:21 »

So I got my Kramer/Fender Strat/Baretta relic back from the shop.



It's a mexi Strat body with an 87 Baretta neck and a Duncan JB in the bridge. The neck is Great. REALLY comfortable. Not too thick, not too thin with really low action. I'm thinking about buying another neck for a body I've got sitting around.

So, any suggestions for a color, if I did the Coronet project? I'd like so do something different than cherry, or cherry burst. I think I might buy an airbrush this weekend, so graphic designs would be open, too, except that the pickguard covers most of the body.
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« Reply #4336 on: 23 Apr 2009, 02:32 »

British racing green + chrome hardware = yes
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« Reply #4337 on: 23 Apr 2009, 02:36 »

the colour it already is, since SM has that!
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« Reply #4338 on: 23 Apr 2009, 02:39 »

British racing green + chrome hardware = yes

That'd be pretty cool. Plus, with an airbrush, I could put old open wheel racing era numbers and logos on it. Kinda fill out the racing idea.

the colour it already is, since SM has that!
??? Please explain. I'm thinking of making one from scratch, not modifying an existing one.
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« Reply #4339 on: 24 Apr 2009, 02:30 »

British racing green + chrome hardware = yes

All the chrome hardware for what is expected to be a British Racing Green Explorer-style body that I'm building now just showed up at the house two days ago.

I feel like all my thunder has been stolen by your post.
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« Reply #4340 on: 24 Apr 2009, 05:43 »

the colour it already is, since SM has that!
??? Please explain. I'm thinking of making one from scratch, not modifying an existing one.

Oops, I didn't read your post properly. I thought you were going to change the colour of the one you just got back.
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« Reply #4341 on: 24 Apr 2009, 07:15 »

over driven tones

warmer and fuller sounding

isn't the primary concern of most bass players

Fuck all of these people.

Addendum: Listen to Black Rebel Motorcycle Club and DFA 1979.

Sorry if I offended you, I don't play bass and I was just going from what I heard.

Regarding amps v solid state issues, I did my honours degree on "blind" listening sessions comparing the two, albeit amp v amp simulation. It should be noted that while the amp won, it wasn't this huge victory that you might've expected.
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« Reply #4342 on: 24 Apr 2009, 11:18 »

British racing green + chrome hardware = yes

All the chrome hardware for what is expected to be a British Racing Green Explorer-style body that I'm building now just showed up at the house two days ago.

I feel like all my thunder has been stolen by your post.

give us some pics of this thing and you shall have redemption!

...on a side note, check out what I found over on the TDPRI forums


based on how the bridge is cut in the back, it can be assumed that a bigsby would be added.  Unfortunately, the body was sold to another builder so there aren't any more pictures of the thing, but just the idea of this guitar existing is enough to make me start drooling.
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« Reply #4343 on: 24 Apr 2009, 11:32 »

^you could always order something like that from Warmoth. It wouldn't be cheap, but it'd be great quality.

over driven tones

warmer and fuller sounding

isn't the primary concern of most bass players

Fuck all of these people.

Addendum: Listen to Black Rebel Motorcycle Club and DFA 1979.

Sorry if I offended you, I don't play bass and I was just going from what I heard.

Regarding amps v solid state issues, I did my honours degree on "blind" listening sessions comparing the two, albeit amp v amp simulation. It should be noted that while the amp won, it wasn't this huge victory that you might've expected.

Solid state amps have come a long way. I've got a little VOX 30W combo and my friend has a 30W Crate and they both sound killer. Although, I know mine has a power tube and I'm pretty sure his does too. As far as I knew (and once again, please don't jump down my throat if I'm wrong, I'm not a huge expert on amp tech) the big difference between tube and solid state was that the tube amp will "break up" at lower volume levels than the solid state. I've heard that you can get the same "break up" out of a solid state, it just occurs at much higher levels. That's why, solid state amps overdrive never sounds quite right, because it's not a true "overdrive." At clean volumes, though, it's significantly more difficult to tell the difference. Someone once told me the reason that a tube amp sounds so much better on clean is not the tubes, it's the other stuff they put in the amp (reverb, chorus, etc).
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« Reply #4344 on: 24 Apr 2009, 12:13 »

^you could always order something like that from Warmoth. It wouldn't be cheap, but it'd be great quality.

You can order a pre-made, bound Jazzmaster body? I need to see this.
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« Reply #4345 on: 24 Apr 2009, 12:52 »

Dude you didn't offend me I was just being humorous.
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« Reply #4346 on: 24 Apr 2009, 03:20 »

Right, so I know you guys hate Ibanez and whatnot, but nevertheless:

I fucking bought one this past monday, and it's pretty damn good!
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« Reply #4347 on: 24 Apr 2009, 04:36 »

I've never understood the hate-on that people get over Ibanez instruments.   I own a couple and they're all very good instruments for the price I've paid for them.   

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« Reply #4348 on: 24 Apr 2009, 07:41 »

Right, so I know you guys hate Ibanez and whatnot, but nevertheless:

I fucking bought one this past monday, and it's pretty damn good!
I own a 92 rg550 with a maple neck. It's a great guitar. Very high quality and very versatile. The stock Ibanez pickups are fairly neutral, so they work well for nearly any genre of music. I imagine most people's problem is with the locking trem, which does frankly suck on most of their older Korean guitars (TRS, ugh). I like their necks, but always found the Wizard I to be more comfortable than the Wizard II (more rounded back profile).
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« Reply #4349 on: 24 Apr 2009, 07:50 »

^you could always order something like that from Warmoth. It wouldn't be cheap, but it'd be great quality.

You can order a pre-made, bound Jazzmaster body? I need to see this.

yep. bindings more money, obviously, but you can do it. you may not be able to get that pickup option, but if you called them, I bet they'd do it special order. You could also get whatever binding color or type of wood you want. Here's a link:

http://www.warmoth.com/Guitar/Bodies/Vintage/JMaster.aspx

options and prices are on the right.
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