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« Reply #50 on: December 02, 2009, 11:50:38 PM »

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« Reply #51 on: December 03, 2009, 03:06:41 AM »

The only definitively positive thing I can say about Bad Machinery so far is that it has become the webcomics world leader in excellent beards
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« Reply #52 on: December 03, 2009, 05:11:24 AM »

So, a mysterious woodland monster?  Why do I feel like Bad Machinery is well on its way to turning back into SGR?
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« Reply #53 on: December 03, 2009, 05:25:44 AM »

Because they are in the same universe but with new (and some old) characters.
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« Reply #54 on: December 03, 2009, 05:29:48 AM »

Except for that The Englishman has stated numerous times in various interviews and blogs and such that the whole idea of stopping SGR and starting under a new title was to signal a shift in tone and subject matter, much in the same way that he went from office romance/slice of life with Bobbins to supernatural/mystery with SGR.
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« Reply #55 on: December 03, 2009, 05:31:34 AM »

Maybe he was scared that he was losing readers and so he is bringing back the classics. Alternatively, it is a drug cartel putting LSD in the water. None of the events are actually happening, everyone is just really fucking high.
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« Reply #56 on: December 03, 2009, 05:32:54 AM »

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« Reply #57 on: December 03, 2009, 12:06:05 PM »

Except for that The Englishman has stated numerous times in various interviews and blogs and such that the whole idea of stopping SGR and starting under a new title was to signal a shift in tone and subject matter, much in the same way that he went from office romance/slice of life with Bobbins to supernatural/mystery with SGR.

Isn't the change from Shelley & Co. to Jack & Co. a good enough shift in tone and subject matter? Two different worlds right there. From his website:

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Bad Machinery is the story of two schoolgirl sleuths and three schoolboy investigators, attending Griswalds Grammar School in Keane End, Tackleford. They are at cross purposes and never the twain shall meet. Please meet them below.

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Q. Will you be bringing back all my favourite characters from Scary Go Round?
A. Certain characters are just done and will never come back. One or two are part of the new comic, but not central to it. Others might cameo, but Bad Machinery is a different sort of comic about a different generation and I think if I begin to wheel out old familiar faces, it will be a sign that things are going wrong creatively.
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« Reply #58 on: December 03, 2009, 02:26:06 PM »

Yay, a demon!
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« Reply #59 on: December 03, 2009, 08:45:46 PM »

Hamilton Percy cameo! Holy shit!

(Hamilton Percy was the madman with the company that seemed to do nothing but move around large empty boxes who employed Shelley back when she was a zombie).
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« Reply #60 on: December 03, 2009, 10:51:25 PM »

(He also employed Eustice in the possible Pyramid scheme and took over the location of Hugo's company with his own)
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« Reply #61 on: December 03, 2009, 11:37:46 PM »

He was also complicit in a white slavery trafficking operation out of the Isle of Wight. 
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« Reply #62 on: December 04, 2009, 04:30:47 PM »

Except for that The Englishman has stated numerous times in various interviews and blogs and such that the whole idea of stopping SGR and starting under a new title was to signal a shift in tone and subject matter, much in the same way that he went from office romance/slice of life with Bobbins to supernatural/mystery with SGR.

That being said, SGR ended up being not a little bit romance-oriented itself, and (IMO) was a lot closer to Bobbins tone-wise at the end of its run than it initially started out as.  It's not impossible to see BM doing the same thing.

Except for that The Englishman has stated numerous times in various interviews and blogs and such that the whole idea of stopping SGR and starting under a new title was to signal a shift in tone and subject matter, much in the same way that he went from office romance/slice of life with Bobbins to supernatural/mystery with SGR.

Isn't the change from Shelley & Co. to Jack & Co. a good enough shift in tone and subject matter? Two different worlds right there. From his website:

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Q. Will you be bringing back all my favourite characters from Scary Go Round?
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See, I don't think that's  reasonable of him to say BM would be going "wrong" if it turned into a continuation of SGR.  The Bobbins/SGR characters are basically the ones he's spent his whole creative life with, so I don't think anyone could blame him if he keeps coming up with stories for them.

As far as the change from Shelly & Co. to Jack & Co...  just remember SGR began with an explicit shift from Shelly & Co. to Rachel and Tessa & Co.
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« Reply #63 on: December 24, 2009, 03:21:26 AM »

Erin? ERIN? ERIN?
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« Reply #64 on: December 24, 2009, 04:08:25 AM »

I remember her being bigger.
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« Reply #65 on: December 24, 2009, 01:45:39 PM »

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« Reply #66 on: January 01, 2010, 11:42:59 PM »

Silly John Allison, Women came out in 2008.
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« Reply #67 on: January 02, 2010, 12:12:14 AM »

This is my least favorite time for the comic. It's nice you like music Mr. Allison, but I needs mah stories.
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« Reply #68 on: January 02, 2010, 04:43:57 PM »

A lot of comics just don't update at all at this time, don't bitch.
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« Reply #69 on: January 03, 2010, 02:51:55 AM »

Yeah so the Erin thing has finally stuck a hook into me.  Unfortunately I haven't read the mini-comic, but I can't help feel that Erin's been adversely affected by her stay in the nether.  No-one can remember her for starters, but also I think she's probably up to no good Sad
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« Reply #70 on: January 03, 2010, 11:07:02 PM »

A lot of comics just don't update at all at this time, don't bitch.

But it's not an update, it's word document with a character that hasn't shown up in this series yet.
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« Reply #71 on: January 04, 2010, 12:11:08 PM »

I wonder if Bob Crowley got out as well?
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« Reply #72 on: January 04, 2010, 05:12:23 PM »

A lot of comics just don't update at all at this time, don't bitch.

But it's not an update, it's word document with a character that hasn't shown up in this series yet.

Man he does this every year I think you can survive a week without your stories
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« Reply #73 on: January 05, 2010, 08:54:27 AM »

I like the albums of the year. It's one of my favourite bits. I'm happy he is still doing it.
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« Reply #74 on: January 05, 2010, 02:43:47 PM »

I like the albums of the year too but looking through the archives he seems to have gotten the years wrong on a few albums.
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« Reply #75 on: February 04, 2010, 12:56:36 PM »

BM is indisputably my favourite comic now.

Achewood is so sporadic now and the commercialism has started to bother me a little.
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« Reply #76 on: February 05, 2010, 02:14:12 AM »

Yeah is it me or does Achewood actually suck now? There are still some really solid turns of phrase in individual panels but it feels like Onstad just isn't trying to write stories anymore. I get the impression his heart isn't in it anymore?

It is cool if you quit making comics Chris Onstad, as long as you do something else, and do it well.
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« Reply #77 on: February 06, 2010, 12:49:51 AM »

Ok, Erin flitted in and back out and now BM sucks again.
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« Reply #78 on: February 06, 2010, 01:56:43 AM »

Yeah is it me or does Achewood actually suck now?

Suck is farther than I would go, but I wouldn't dispute that the sporadic updates are hurting the comic. It doesn't help that he set such a high standard for himself either. After all, there was a time when I'd check constantly because there was always the chance he might go on a tear like the time he cranked out Ebay Platinum Reserve immediately followed up by the Scientific Dong Study in what I think was a month or two. These days you might get two proper strips and a flow chart in a given week. Perhaps he should look into doing something else for a while. He's certainly wringed enough stories out of the Achewood cast that I could hardly blame him for feeling a bit painted in these days.
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« Reply #79 on: February 06, 2010, 06:27:47 PM »

Well put Alex.. you can almost feel that urgency that Chris has about making money from achewood when the 'golden era' of achewood was long before any of this assetbar crap came along. he could have at least called his 'premium package' the 'platinum reserve achewood' but nooo..

at any rate... about Bad Machinery... I have this nasty tendancy of finally getting into a comic mere months before it dies off. as with SGR, I finally plowed through the whole archive only to find the story being finished! I hate when that happens. I did the same thing with Sconeborough(http://sconeborough.lmfao.org.uk/) and it's irrrrrrritating. I love SGR and often go into the archives to re-read some of my favourite storylines. still trying to warm up to BM but the focus on the younger kids is making it hard to identify with.
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« Reply #80 on: February 06, 2010, 11:05:44 PM »

Yeah, I honestly just don't care about them all that much.  The two main girls are turgid little bints.  About the only ones I have any sort of interest in are Mildred and Jack.  I have a feeling Jack's gonna become one of the main characters along the way, if not already, but if it keeps focusing on Shauna and Charlotte without developing them further than "stereotypically annoying, mouthy kids" then I'm gonna be disappointed.  This is really annoying to me mainly because SGR was my favourite webcomic and I know that John A is a top-class guy trying his best to make good stuff.  I really *want* to like it, but unfortunately I'm finding that at the moment at least it is not to my taste.
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« Reply #81 on: February 07, 2010, 05:51:30 AM »

I say we need more episodes with Shauna's little half-brother.
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« Reply #82 on: February 22, 2010, 08:27:46 PM »

Personally I adore BM but there's a distinct possibility that a lot of the humour thus far has been more than a little Anglocentric. One thing you certainly can't fault is the art, which is just perfect right now.

I think it's really brave to see John A making his cast younger and younger because the young adult range is much easier to write. As he commented, with the latter you have lots of obvious material about sex and drinking etc. Personally I don't really like kids so I was more than a bit sceptical at first but I feel like I was challenged and then rewarded by something I like even more than the comics that went before. I get the feeling in the long term this series will turn out to be his legacy. Think how much time and space there is for the characters to grow, if indeed he continues it for as long as I hope he does.

Also, Shauna and Lottie are great. They have developed a lot since SGR, especially the former. Think what she was like before. Regardless, it will become more apparent as time goes by. If you go back to the start of Achewood, the three cats scarcely appeared and didn't even have names. I urge everyone to give it some more time.
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« Reply #83 on: March 09, 2010, 09:30:35 PM »

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« Reply #84 on: March 09, 2010, 10:20:10 PM »

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« Reply #85 on: March 10, 2010, 04:47:45 AM »

Oh hey thanks for reminding me I haven't read BM in ages. I agree with the people who say it is getting better as it goes along, and some of the art has been just perfect. I died laughing at the panel where the boys are at Linton's place and his mum tickles Jack. Also Mildred's face in the last panel of the most recent comic. So cute!
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« Reply #86 on: March 10, 2010, 11:27:44 AM »

Bad Machinery is getting better but I would like to enumerate my problems by requesting you all re-read a chapter from the best period of Scary Go Round, perhaps Bulgaria

Every page man. Sometimes every panel.
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« Reply #87 on: March 11, 2010, 02:41:26 AM »

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« Reply #88 on: March 11, 2010, 09:22:19 AM »

Gets worse! Hung for five years as decoration in office of Mikhail Gorbachev.

Actually man, current stuff is getting pretty gold.

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« Reply #89 on: March 11, 2010, 09:43:16 AM »

I definitely agree that it's not of the same consistent brilliance that Scary Go Round reached at its peak, but I do reckon it's already improving on the quality of SGR's twilight months, which I guess was the point? Today's strip was great.
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« Reply #90 on: March 16, 2010, 11:37:35 PM »

oh fuck i don't know why but i bust out laughing at the last panel of today's comic
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« Reply #91 on: March 17, 2010, 12:14:28 AM »

It is because it is hilarious! Sonny floating adrift from his bike, set for very bad things indeed is a masterstroke.

Also I am pretty sure Mildred is becoming my favourite character because of she gets the best facial expressions and she also seems to be potentially criminally insane ("I don't see how you can charge for TRIANGLES")
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« Reply #92 on: Today at 04:36:11 PM »

Mildred and Sonny are the break-away stars for sure.
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