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« on: September 13, 2009, 06:38:20 PM »

Maybe now everyone can stop whinging about minutia.
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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2009, 06:49:19 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2009, 06:55:47 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2009, 07:21:01 PM »

I don't like Questionable Content
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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2009, 07:21:19 PM »

I LOVE IT
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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2009, 07:25:11 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2009, 07:45:41 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2009, 11:27:40 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2009, 11:37:40 PM »

I prefer it when the content is less questionable.
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2009, 12:54:04 AM »

Bother that. It's often not Questionable enough.
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2009, 10:15:04 AM »

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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2009, 12:22:16 PM »

I like it's earlier stuff more than it's new stuff.

Before it totally sold out.

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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2009, 05:52:59 PM »

Hopefully he's planning a special edition of the first 500 strips in monochrome too.
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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2009, 08:27:19 PM »

FUCK questionable content.
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2009, 08:41:36 PM »

FUCK questionable content.

Literally?  Because that could take a while.  I mean, we'd have to find stand-ins for the cast, and then I thin we'd be morally obligated to buy condoms....

Please, consider the snakepit you're stepping into and don't ask us to fuck your imagination.  It would take forever
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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2009, 07:44:19 AM »

FUCK isnt actualy a word, its an acronim
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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2009, 08:41:56 AM »

FUCK questionable content.

Literally?  Because that could take a while.  I mean, we'd have to find stand-ins for the cast, and then I thin we'd be morally obligated to buy condoms....

Please, consider the snakepit you're stepping into and don't ask us to fuck your imagination.  It would take forever

Well, if we don't get stand-ins it's totally doable. If you only imaginatively fuck Jeph's imagination there is no need for condoms or messy clean-up afterward. As to taking forever, well, that would just be a mater of who's imagination is bigger ...

Also, as I am married, imaginary fucking could be all I'd be down for.   undecided

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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2009, 08:44:39 AM »

FUCK isnt actualy a word, its an acronim

On the contrary, the verb to fuck comes to us from the German ficken (to fuck) with cognates in Dutch (fokken) , Norweigein, (fukka) and Swedish (fokka.)

For unlawful carnal knowledge and Fornication under consent of the King came later, and only work with modern English, which the word fuck certainly predates

and while we're being pedantic, acronym is spelled with a 'y'.
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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2009, 09:29:28 AM »

On the contrary, there are many theories about the etymology of fuck but they are all unproven.
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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2009, 10:24:00 AM »

It's not an acronym.  It's just a word, with a very, very long history.
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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2009, 10:36:59 AM »

a word, with a very, very long history.

The OED only dates it from 1568, and another author has a citation from 1528 - so not so very long.
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« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2009, 11:01:30 AM »

Given that it's a bad word, and was banned in print by law for many years, rarity in print isn't surprising.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=fuck

It's at least 300 years older than that, and almost certainly older still in fact.
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« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2009, 11:53:55 AM »

That link quotes similar dates to mine, but then says "but presumably it is a much more ancient word than that" which is by no means certain; other scholars generally agree that the proper name quoted at an earlier date is not linked to the word.  There were other words in use previously which fell out of use as fuck became prevalent. 
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« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2009, 06:58:42 PM »

FUCK isnt actualy a word, its an acronim

On the contrary, the verb to fuck comes to us from the German ficken (to fuck) with cognates in Dutch (fokken) , Norweigein, (fukka) and Swedish (fokka.)

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« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2009, 07:24:16 PM »

The OED only dates it from 1568, and another author has a citation from 1528 - so not so very long.

And the Acronym theory can only be traced to the 1960's.
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« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2009, 07:39:30 PM »

Ok, so i stand corrected or something... i guess...


One for the random thoughts file: If Apple were to make a sex-doll they should call it the "Apple iBang".
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« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2009, 10:46:44 PM »

Oh frak
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« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2009, 10:55:57 PM »

What the fuck is Questionable Content?
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« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2009, 01:27:18 PM »

If Apple were to make a sex-doll they should call it the "Apple iBang".

And given that folks keep calling the exclamation point a "bang", this could be written as "the i!", which does have a certain web-two-point-oh feel to it.
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« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2009, 02:45:20 PM »

No, that's Spanish.
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« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2009, 12:31:30 AM »

Spanish has a certain web-two-point-oh feel to it?
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« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2009, 01:46:52 AM »

¡I'm pretty sure he meant punctuation! ¿Don't you think?
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« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2009, 11:55:59 AM »

I believe I've posted enough on this forums for you to know the answer to that question, Lady maddness: Yes, but not very well.
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« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2009, 10:58:20 PM »

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« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2009, 11:28:12 PM »

Questionable Content would be way better with Kosh

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« Reply #35 on: September 25, 2009, 07:13:58 AM »

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« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2009, 07:24:26 AM »

Fun to see the site's owner remarks turn into a nice debate on the origin of the word 'fuck'.

'Bumschen' , by the way.
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« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2009, 08:04:53 AM »

Fun to see the site's owner remarks turn into a nice debate on the origin of the word 'fuck'.

'Bumschen' , by the way.

Thank you.  Never took German, and it's hard to look up stuff like that.  Ya skazal tolko po Russkie.  And very badly, at that. 
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« Reply #38 on: November 06, 2009, 03:30:25 AM »

FUCK isnt actualy a word, its an acronim

On the contrary, the verb to fuck comes to us from the German ficken (to fuck) with cognates in Dutch (fokken) , Norweigein, (fukka) and Swedish (fokka.)

For unlawful carnal knowledge and Fornication under consent of the King came later, and only work with modern English, which the word fuck certainly predates

and while we're being pedantic, acronym is spelled with a 'y'.

What ARE you talking about? Fukka is not a Norwegian word. I am Norwegian, I would know. Pretty sure that Swedish word is wrong to, but I wouldn't bet on it. Where you lot would say "fuck", we use the swearword "faen" or "faen ta", derived from an old word for Satan. Some people also use the loanword "fuck", with the English pronunciation.
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« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2009, 04:58:00 AM »

Fun to see the site's owner remarks turn into a nice debate on the origin of the word 'fuck'.

'Bumschen' , by the way.

It's bumsen. No caps and no ch. A Bumschen would porbably be a small fuck. (The noun, not the verb.)
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« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2009, 08:35:35 AM »

What ARE you talking about? Fukka is not a Norwegian word. I am Norwegian, I would know. Pretty sure that Swedish word is wrong to, but I wouldn't bet on it. Where you lot would say "fuck", we use the swearword "faen" or "faen ta", derived from an old word for Satan. Some people also use the loanword "fuck", with the English pronunciation.

I was just about to say the same thing! Hello, fellow Norwegian. don't see your kind around here a lot!
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« Reply #41 on: November 06, 2009, 10:05:51 AM »

FUCK isnt actualy a word, its an acronim

On the contrary, the verb to fuck comes to us from the German ficken (to fuck) with cognates in Dutch (fokken) , Norweigein, (fukka) and Swedish (fokka.)

For unlawful carnal knowledge and Fornication under consent of the King came later, and only work with modern English, which the word fuck certainly predates

and while we're being pedantic, acronym is spelled with a 'y'.

What ARE you talking about? Fukka is not a Norwegian word. I am Norwegian, I would know. Pretty sure that Swedish word is wrong to, but I wouldn't bet on it. Where you lot would say "fuck", we use the swearword "faen" or "faen ta", derived from an old word for Satan. Some people also use the loanword "fuck", with the English pronunciation.
Sigh. How many times must it be said: nobody, I mean nobody, (according to the last edition of the OED, this still stands) really knows where fuck came from. Actually, Heranje, English had a fair bit of Scandinavian rammed down its throat by Cnut the Great et. al., but no one has managed to tie fuck to that, either. Clearly someone should build a wayback machine to try to work this out, but no one has fucking time, nor the right set of priorities.
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« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2009, 02:15:53 PM »

...I was not trying to say where fuck comes from. I was simply telling akronnick that fukka is not a Norwegian word, nor is anything resembling it. And I'm aware that English has a lot of loanwords from the scandinavian languages. In fact, old viking accounts of trips to England said plainly "they speak norse there". Which they probably didn't, but it was close enough that the English could speak their language and the vikings could speak their language and they both understood.

Also, hello Jeans! Smiley It's always fun to find Norwegians on the old interwebs. xD We are few and far between.
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« Reply #43 on: November 06, 2009, 03:16:18 PM »

Also, hello Jeans! Smiley It's always fun to find Norwegians on the old interwebs. xD We are few and far between.
I am not Norwegian but I did live in Trondheim for a few months. It is a great country.
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« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2009, 03:17:37 PM »

...We are few and far between.

Except, of course, in Norway. 

But even there, you're not very dense!
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« Reply #45 on: November 06, 2009, 04:55:49 PM »

...I was not trying to say where fuck comes from. I was simply telling akronnick that fukka is not a Norwegian word, nor is anything resembling it.

Then you might want to edit the wikipedia page on fuck.
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« Reply #46 on: November 06, 2009, 05:05:40 PM »

Just because "fukka" is not in Bokmål or Nynorsk doesn't mean it wasn't in an archaic Norwegian dialect. There's plenty of archaic words in the English language alone that nobody would recognize unless they were a linguist or somesuch. Considering that Norwegian has two standard written forms, and that they're both pretty much compiled of the older dialects from the 19th century and before, a lot of the vocabulary of the older dialects would've necessarily been made obsolete. So while you may be right that it's not a modern Norwegian word, I don't see why that rules out Norway as a possible origin for the English word.
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« Reply #47 on: November 06, 2009, 05:51:24 PM »

I am not Norwegian but I did live in Trondheim for a few months. It is a great country.

It is very pleasant. Smiley I haven't been to Trondheim, but I have friends who study there. I've heard it's nice!

...We are few and far between.

Except, of course, in Norway. 

But even there, you're not very dense!

Nope! 4,5 million people in a country that, if you flipped it around, would cross all of Europe and end in Italy. Tongue We like our space.

Then you might want to edit the wikipedia page on fuck.
Eh, no. I don't have any actual sources, just a native's knowledge of the language (as it currently is). Plus, editing wikipedia pages is intimidating - it's basically the same as claiming I know the truth.

Just because "fukka" is not in Bokmål or Nynorsk doesn't mean it wasn't in an archaic Norwegian dialect. There's plenty of archaic words in the English language alone that nobody would recognize unless they were a linguist or somesuch. Considering that Norwegian has two standard written forms, and that they're both pretty much compiled of the older dialects from the 19th century and before, a lot of the vocabulary of the older dialects would've necessarily been made obsolete. So while you may be right that it's not a modern Norwegian word, I don't see why that rules out Norway as a possible origin for the English word.
That is a good point. Smiley I was mainly reacting to the way akronnick made it sound like it was a current Norwegian word, and thought "Hey, this is something I know things about! I must correct this FATAL ERROR!" I will admit that I'm not an expert on the ancient language, though, so it sounds perfectly plausible that it could have come from there. Suppose I should have considered that, or at least made more clear what I was correcting.
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« Reply #48 on: November 06, 2009, 05:52:05 PM »

Then you might want to edit the wikipedia page on fuck.

Best of luck with that.
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« Reply #49 on: November 07, 2009, 01:04:24 AM »

It needs more desu.
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