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« on: October 13, 2009, 03:01:37 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crunk
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2009, 03:06:07 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2009, 03:35:17 AM »
well gee I wonder how that happened all of a sudden
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2009, 04:44:30 PM »
"do not have rich melodies" is a pretty glaring value judgment
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2009, 02:30:27 AM »
I'm sorry, I found most of that hilarious. Even I refer to it as "Ni**er music".
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2009, 03:18:30 AM »
That would probably be a bad idea for me, considering I'm extremely white, wear German camouflage, and already strike everyone as unbalanced (apparently my default expression is scowling).

I didn't really find it funny, though. ED can sometimes be funny with their... somewhat insensitive articles, but this one wasn't funny. Might be funnier if I had ever heard the genre, but I doubt it.
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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2009, 08:16:10 AM »
crunk's been dead since 77 anyways
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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2009, 08:18:41 AM »
I see what you did there.
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2009, 08:44:39 AM »
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The growing interest in crunk music among white music producers caused the appearance of various subgenres of crunk, including eurocrunk, crunkcore, crunkczar, aquacrunk, and we're-making-this-shit-up-crunk; crunk music started getting intensively mixed with [[dubstep]]. Fortunately, there are some out there, keeping the genre pure. Unfortunately, they are not working as hard to keep the white race pure.

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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2009, 03:52:11 PM »
i honestly thought that would a be a link to this:   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs

i have absolutely no beef with people of other races, but i'll admit some of the entries on that list are pretty funny.
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2009, 04:14:55 PM »
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Pancake Face, Pancake
    An Asian person
I don't get it.
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2009, 04:47:53 PM »
yeah there's plenty that don't make any sense, but some are pretty funny.  also, it's rather ironically NOT racist, as they cover most races in that list!
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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2009, 05:38:49 PM »
Zombiedude, maybe it's because pancakes are yellow-ish and the current Asian ideal of beauty seems to be more round-faced than the euro-centric ideal?
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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2009, 06:17:01 PM »
If you have to discuss it, it's not that good a slur.
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2009, 09:22:46 PM »
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Zombiedude, maybe it's because pancakes are yellow-ish and the current Asian ideal of beauty seems to be more round-faced than the euro-centric ideal?

Why didn't they do waffles then?
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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2009, 12:27:52 AM »
Quote from: Zombiedude on October 16, 2009, 04:14:55 PM
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Pancake Face, Pancake
    An Asian person
I don't get it.

Our faces are supposed to be yellow, round, and flat. Hilarious eh?
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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2009, 12:54:19 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2009, 10:40:46 PM »
Umm, yeah, don't listen to me. I find this kind of thing hilarious. Half of the time, when there are racist jokes against black folk being tossed around, I'm the one dishing them out...

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« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2009, 12:30:47 AM »
It is okay when you as a black dude does it though because then it is pretty much always a joke.

If you have a white dude doing it outside of specific context it's pretty racist no matter how funny it is.
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« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2009, 12:35:42 AM »
So when a black guy says it it isn't offensive at all?
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« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2009, 12:44:44 AM »
That depends on who you ask, but usually not in popular culture.
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« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2009, 05:21:13 PM »
I never really understood that rule. Groups can make fun of themselves using derogatory terms and it is okay, but as soon as someone outside that group does it, it is considered racist or sexist or whatever-ist?
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« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2009, 05:31:38 PM »
yeah

if you are oppressed then you can take the sign of your oppression and reappropriate it. if you are not and use the same sign then you are continuing the oppression

(this is a very simplistic take on it - i'd be willing to bet that BrittanyMarie could give a legit explanation on it, i think she probs has the best analysis on this of DISCUSS folks)
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« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2009, 05:40:15 PM »
Okay, I guess that makes sense. But why reappropriate it at all, if it just serves as a reminder of said oppression?
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« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2009, 06:23:01 PM »
Because it's kind of laughing in the face of the oppression.  It removes a lot of the power the oppressor had over the oppressed with those words and stereotypes if you just turn them into a huge joke.
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« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2009, 07:36:07 PM »
Or if you're like me, and you don't really care either way, and when someone is being racist, you throw back racial slurs and horribly offensive things their way.

But just for the record, if anyone's watched (the uncut version of) How High, you'll know that there are black folk that still don't take lightly to the N-bomb, no matter who it's coming from.

But I'm just offensive all around.
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