Modern Warfare 2

[Felrender]

wrong

Welp, that's it.  Blow it all up, let's start this shit over.

[Melodic]

Usually I'm fairly apathetic towards shitty PC ports, but this'll be the first game I pirate a game on principle alone. I'm really disappointed that the PC multiplayer experience is such total bullocks, because after hearing such glowing reviews from the console versions I really want to be able to play MP on the computer.

[Zombiedude]

Really, I liked the first one, but I can't find myself caring abut this one at all.

[Chesire Cat]

Usually I'm fairly apathetic towards shitty PC ports, but this'll be the first game I pirate a game on principle alone.

Oh you win, PC gaming is going to be better for it. Bravo.

[Nodaisho]

Well then what do you suggest, o font of wisdom?

[Chesire Cat]

Buying it or not. Theft is not a political statement, its a poorly formulated excuse that pretends its not part of the problem.

[Nodaisho]

And how would not buying it make a statement? I'm pretty sure that Activision doesn't get a list of people that don't buy a game because of their changes.

[Surgoshan]

fanboy fail

[Ikrik]

I want every single one of those people who are playing MW2 and signed the boycott to be lined up and shot.  Or at least be given a kick in the nuts by a courier who also says "congratulations, you've proven to Activision that they don't ever have to take you seriously, ever."  Wonder what Activision will do next for MW3, make it $10 more expensive?  Probably.

And if enough people get pissed off with Activision they'll stop buying the products.  It's not going to make a huge dent but when the casual masses move onto something else, Activision won't have a core audience to sell their crap to. 

[Bastardous Bassist]

And how would not buying it make a statement? I'm pretty sure that Activision doesn't get a list of people that don't buy a game because of their changes.

Stealing it only says "I feel entitled to this game, and my money."  It sends absolutely no message as to the quality of the game, since you're still acquiring the game.

[snalin]

Or it says "I have a limited gaming budget, and I spend money on the games I think is the best ones, while the mediocre I just download while waiting for/waiting to afford something better". It's like my music - I can't nearly afford everything I download, so I pay for whatever that's still interesting after 10+ playtroughs.

Not that I think it's a moral high ground or anything - I just don't think that it's theft. It's like breaking into the cinema at night to watch movies, just that you don't use any of the cinema's electricity and don't break into anything. They don't loose money, they just doesn't make any either.


TL;DR: Downloading a movie isn't comparable to stealing a car, you dipshit commercial fuck.

[Bastardous Bassist]

That last part is true, and the rest might be why you think you download, but you should be aware that it's not the message you're sending.  I would point out that you are coming off as feeling entitled to consume something that you have not purchased.

[Melodic]

Usually I'm fairly apathetic towards shitty PC ports, but this'll be the first game I pirate a game on principle alone.

Oh you win, PC gaming is going to be better for it. Bravo.

That's exactly what I'm not doing. No, no kind of boycott will actually make the publisher think twice, blah blah blah blah blah. But fuck if I'm paying for such a shitty product.

In conclusion, go eat dicks.

[Storm Rider]

whole lotta care up in this thread

[Chesire Cat]

Well Bastardous Bassist summed it up pretty nicely. Sounds like we stand on the same side of the good ole line in the sand.

Also Melodic, Im probably not going to eat dicks, like you, I get to enjoy the righteousness of *my* principals, standing behind my opinion that downloading it doesnt further your cause, it only furthers theirs cause by proving eliminating dedicated servers to help prevent piracy was the right thing to do.

[Ozymandias]

That's exactly what I'm not doing. No, no kind of boycott will actually make the publisher think twice, blah blah blah blah blah. But fuck if I'm paying for such a shitty product.

In conclusion, go eat dicks.

If it is shitty why even bother pirating it

[Nodaisho]

\it only furthers theirs cause by proving eliminating dedicated servers to help prevent piracy was the right thing to do.

So remind me again how it prevents piracy? You just said that him pirating something proves that they were right to make a change decreasing the quality of gameplay in order to prevent piracy. Which has led to people that would buy the game otherwise pirating it (not that they would ever admit to realizing that is what is happening). And hasn't stopped anyone from actually pirating the game.

[est]

Meanwhile, I am not buying it because it sounds boring.  It sounds like the game equivalent of a blockbuster movie.

[Bastardous Bassist]

The single player assuredly is.  It's actually apparently worse than that, even.  The only possible reason to play this game would be the multiplayer.

[Chesire Cat]

Which is increasingly difficult with the absence of dedicated servers

[Chesire Cat]

Bassist jumps and hits it off the backboard, then I catch it and BOOM!!! SLAM DUNK!!!

[Nodaisho]

Meanwhile, I am not buying it because it sounds boring.  It sounds like the game equivalent of a blockbuster movie.

How is this a bad thing? It is like a blockbuster movie that you get to play.

[Melodic]

I never meant to make it sound like my refusal to pay for the product was some sort of universal statement -- aside from feeling screwed over as part of a minor demographic that the developer definitely didn't pay attention to -- just that IW's inability to be even marginally considerate of my platform of choice has downgraded Modern Warfare 2 from a must-buy game to a should-rent game. As immoral and unethical as I may be in doing so, since I can't very well rent PC titles I just pirate the ones not worth buying.

TL;DR The changes (or rather, lack thereof) made to MW2's PC release turned the game into something I'd rather try than buy.

[est]

How is this a bad thing? It is like a blockbuster movie that you get to play.

This is a bad thing because blockbuster movies are badly-scripted, formulaic, predictable crap.  They are sometimes good when you want to watch things explode for an hour or so, but I can't really imagine playing one for an extended period unless it didn't take itself too seriously, ala Saint's Row and Just Cause.

[Beren]

How is this a bad thing? It is like a blockbuster movie that you get to play.

This is a bad thing because blockbuster movies are badly-scripted, formulaic, predictable crap.  They are sometimes good when you want to watch things explode for an hour or so, but I can't really imagine playing one for an extended period unless it didn't take itself too seriously, ala Saint's Row and Just Cause.

It's only about 4 hours long. The single player, that is.

It's good though. I enjoyed it. I wouldn't have enjoyed much more then 4 hours of it.

And of course the MP is addictive. Woo, leveling sucks me in.

[Nodaisho]

Yeah, the plot was extremely stupid, but I think that once the price drops (at least to $40, maybe $30), I'll buy it, as long as I don't hear overwhelmingly negative things about the matchmaking, because it looks like a lot of fun and I have an unhealthy obsession with the FAL.

[satsugaikaze]

I don't mean to sound petty, but -

WHY the FUCK do I have to obtain Steam purely for the purposes of installing this fucking game?

At the rate my wireless works, I'm not going to be able to play this shit until a week later.

[KvP]

Meanwhile, I am not buying it because it sounds boring.  It sounds like the game equivalent of a blockbuster movie.

How is this a bad thing? It is like a blockbuster movie that you get to play.

Play Crysis instead. Better to play an Arnie-level sci-fi epic than some Tom Clancy bullshit. Longer game, too.

[Nodaisho]

I seem to have misplaced my Cray, so I'll have to stick with Modern Warfare.

Less flippant answer: The games aren't anywhere near the same, and the multiplayer isn't either. I think I would like Modern Warfare 2 more than Crysis, having seen people playing both of them.

[Catfish_Man]

Honestly, I've very much enjoyed basically every part of this game. The campaign is utterly over the top nonsense (slightly annoyingly so after CoD4's somewhat more restrained nonsense), but tons of fun and with some quite amazing set pieces. The coop scenarios are quick enough that I can slip in a couple after work without seriously impacting my schedule, and are also lots of fun. Non-coop multiplayer I haven't played as much, but it seems decent.

[Zombiedude]

Dick and Rummy quotes?

The Rumsfeld quote seems particularly odd.

[Scandanavian War Machine]

Actually, I think they fit the themes of the game pretty well.

The Cheney one in particular showcases a very specific mindset that some of the characters possess and actually act on, to their superiors' chagrin, in the course of the game's campaign. (high five for spoiler-avoidance!)

The other one also demonstrates that nobody is omniscient and it's literally impossible to know every thing that is going on at all times, which is obviously relevent to the game world because many of the main events in the story are not prevented simply due to lack of information.
I think they just want you to say yourself "Even though the government can look up my ass from space and is monitoring shit all over the world, they still don't know everything and are by no means the god-like entity that they've been made out to be in some popular media today. They are human. Filthy rich and morally questionable at times, but human...and fallible."

[Scandanavian War Machine]

or maybe they just thought they were funny quotes

[Zombiedude]

Perhaps years of WW2 games have conditioned me to only expect FDR and Winston Churchhill quotes.

[clockworkjames]

Single player was pretty good, spec ops is quite nice, multiplayer is direly wank.

WTB dedi server support. Also promod...



hey you derps, keep it on topic.

[Zombiedude]

Modern Warfare 3 looks pretty fantastic

[Ozymandias]

Finally got my hands on (my dad's copy of) this game this weekend.

Hot balls there's a lot of shit to upgrade in online multi. I literally spent 8 hours today trying to get every upgrade for a single gun while trying to upgrade my perks along the way.

Crazy. Also painfully addictive for a completionist like myself.

[satsugaikaze]

Modern Warfare 3 looks pretty fantastic

lol'd.


I'm sticking to solo co-op, as it's pretty much the only way to game competitively with friends without going onto the shitty online community. Play a game, check the time, one-up your friend!