Topic: Anime anyone? (Read 28672 times)

satsugaikaze · « **Reply #100 on:** 19 Apr 2011, 02:11 »

Quote from: Torlek on 18 Apr 2011, 08:29

Quote from: Odin on 18 Apr 2011, 05:45
For those that haven't seen it, the newer Hellsing series is basically the manga converted over to video form.
For realz? I must find this. The original Hellsing OVA was shit compared to the manga.

I must add, though, that Yasushi Ishii gave the anime series a killer soundtrack that the Ultimate OVAs haven't held a candle to so far.

Odin · « **Reply #101 on:** 19 Apr 2011, 03:41 »

I honestly don't miss the original series soundtrack at all and enjoy the new series on pretty much every level a lot more than the old one.

I mean, it's basically everything enjoyable about the original series cranked up to 11.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #102 on:** 19 Apr 2011, 11:03 »

I still have a degree of nostalgia for the original Hellsing anime series. It's what got me into Hellsing after all; I first saw it before there was an official English translation. From what I remember, the anime recieved an english translation before the manga as well.

Recently I've been reading Franken Fran. It's pretty great.

tender · « **Reply #103 on:** 19 Apr 2011, 03:39 »

I've watched the first two episodes of the original Hellsing and thought they were alright, but I really disliked the Ultimate Hellsing OVAs. It's a popular show, and I understand why: ''I mean, it's basically everything enjoyable about the original series cranked up to 11." This is a really good way to describe it, with Nigel Tufnel's This Is Spinal Tap state of mind. Some of the fight scenes are memorable, and I wanted to enjoy it, but the series is amped to a level of ridiculousness that doesn't gel with me.

/still trying to decide what to watch from the spring season

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Quote from: satsugaikaze on 19 Apr 2011, 02:11

I must add, though, that Yasushi Ishii gave the anime series a killer soundtrack that the Ultimate OVAs haven't held a candle to so far.

Indeed, indeed. I really like his contributions to Darker Than Black as well.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #104 on:** 19 Apr 2011, 05:00 »

The anime series is a lot more subdued and atmospheric than the OVA. Partly this was because of the apparently limited animation budget and partly because of the score, but also it was because of a quite interesting shift in the perspective. Seras is the central character of the original anime, rather than Alucard, and the process of her becoming a vampire is the main plot thread. It all goes to shit in the second half though, because whoever continued the story had not grokked the style of Hellsing at all, and fucked everything up (from character design onwards). Although following the manga point by point is good the beginning of the manga is a bit rushed in terms of exposition. Style and atmosphere are basically the whole point of Hellsing though; it's all about the sheer 'rule of cool' factor, and it's unique feel and recurrent, almost fetishistic visual themes (eyes concealed behind reflective glasses, white gloves, etc.).

Thing is, with Hellsing, unlike any other anime/manga franchise, I am a complete fanboy. I own every single Hellsing related thing that exists: OSTs on CD, all issues of the manga, all DVDs. I've even read Dawn, for fucks sake. As I said, I got into Hellsing way way back in 2002, downloading fanlations of the original anime off of Kazaa. I've cosplayed as Father Anderson, made AMVs, written fan-fiction, the works (all of this back when I was 14-15). It can't really do any wrong in my mind; but I will admit, I notice its flaws and quirks whenever I intriduce people to it. I wil say, with the plot, you shouldn't really judge until you get into at least Manga/OVA 5/6. Kouta Hirano wasn't expecting the series to be popular or successful and it evolved a lot. Once Das Millenium get on the scene it picks up a lot.

Odin · « **Reply #105 on:** 19 Apr 2011, 07:33 »

Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at. The Ultimate OVA series doesn't truly begin to shine until you get past the point where the plotline between it and the original series break off and go in completely different directions.

Seras still plays a pretty big role in the new series, what with how insanely powerful she gets once she finally breaks down and feeds and all (I couldn't wait for the DVDs, had to youtube some subs of the OVAs currently available in Japan). Plus the Werewolf and the whole plot twist with Walter, etc.

satsugaikaze · « **Reply #106 on:** 20 Apr 2011, 02:19 »

Yeah, once the Hellsing Organisation is being attacked and gets tasked to solely fight against Millenium (with the Geese), the story, pacing and plot (as well as Seras) zooms off like a motherfucker.

In the anime, though, there's just some big demonic thing who's out to get Alucard, and they have a big demonic showdown in the streets of London. Okay.

Also it is of some note that Kouta Hirano had (as a few established mangakas are) previously been a porn artist, and so the fetishistic visual design is pretty signature of him. It is much more prevalent in the Ultimates than in the series, for better or for worse.

SirDudley · « **Reply #107 on:** 20 Apr 2011, 09:28 »

Quote from: satsugaikaze on 20 Apr 2011, 02:19

Also it is of some note that Kouta Hirano had (as a few established mangakas are) previously been a porn artist, and so the fetishistic visual design is pretty signature of him. It is much more prevalent in the Ultimates than in the series, for better or for worse.

And, a good portion of the cast of Hellsing came from those hentai doujinshi that Hirano drew early on. The only ones I can think of that did not (off the top of my head) were: the people from Iscariot (excluding Anderson, who did come from one of those doujinshi), the Convention of Twelve, and a few Millenium members (Zorin, Tubalacain, Shrodinger, and the Captain).

Scandanavian War Machine · « **Reply #108 on:** 22 Apr 2011, 03:06 »

so it seems like FLCL finally has a legit american version that's not way overpriced. yay!

just ordered the bluray on amazon yesterday

satsugaikaze · « **Reply #109 on:** 25 Apr 2011, 05:57 »

Man I keep going back to watch Trigun on HD Remastered DVD and I honestly haven't found an anime both shamelessly comedic and ridiculously profound in one sitting in the way Trigun is.

MusicScribbles · « **Reply #110 on:** 26 Apr 2011, 09:57 »

I'm going to batter back at you sir and refer you to the post above your own. FLCL is all this, and it does it in six episodes.

Although I quite like Trigun, I kind've take issue with it's crazily inconsistent tone. More opinion maybe at a later date!

Odin · « **Reply #111 on:** 27 Apr 2011, 05:53 »

Quote from: satsugaikaze on 25 Apr 2011, 05:57

Man I keep going back to watch Trigun on HD Remastered DVD and I honestly haven't found an anime both shamelessly comedic and ridiculously profound in one sitting in the way Trigun is.

Now and Then, Here and There had a few scattered bits of hilarity in the crushing depression throughout it.

See also: The Rebuild of Evangelion DVDs that are going on. I just watched the second one and they're already up to Unit 01 sprouting wings and fucking everything up around the world.

Blyss · « **Reply #112 on:** 28 Apr 2011, 09:02 »

Lots and lots of good stuff here. Samurai Jack is just simply amazing. There is no getting around that. I remember when it came out, and watching how they created it, and listening to what they had in mind, and then watching with awe as they far surpassed anything they had described.

Avatar: the Last Airbender - again, so good. I was hooked from the very first episode, and it just got better in terms of story and character development as it continued.

I do like the Evangelion Movies 1.11 and 2.22 - But to be honest, I'm not sure what it is that I like. It's kind of crazy, how I enjoy these without really understanding why.

I'm currently watching Ergo Proxy, and I'm having pretty good fun with that.

Hellsing... I have to say that I'll probably go against all the arguments here, and say - I like ALL of the Hellsing stuff I've seen. I have the original episodes from waaaay back - I love the New OVA, and I've read the Manga, and I honestly just can't get enough.

I have wanted to watch Trigun for a while now, and I have the time and the means to acquire this... So thank you for reminding me of that.

Akira was the first exposure I ever got to Anime - that led me to Golgo 13, and then Vampire Hunter D... From then on, I've tried to find more and more... I seem to remember something called M.D. Geist.

HLCL sounds intriguing too.

Gah, head's spinning now.

satsugaikaze · « **Reply #113 on:** 01 May 2011, 04:18 »

Unless someone has mentioned it before, Makoto Shinkai's works are usually works of anime purity.

Voices of a Distant Star made me cry when I was a kid. First anime to do that.

Odin · « **Reply #114 on:** 02 May 2011, 03:25 »

Legend of Galactic Heroes for the sheer fucking scale of the series.

Odin · « **Reply #115 on:** 03 May 2011, 06:41 »

Posting to recommend the new series Cat Shit One, which I believe will make Watership Down look like Sesame Street.

JD · « **Reply #116 on:** 03 May 2011, 06:43 »

That doesn't really count as a anime.

MusicScribbles · « **Reply #117 on:** 03 May 2011, 07:36 »

The voice acting is also hilariously terrible. Wait, no, the writing is also hilariously terrible.
This makes it so much better though because it looks so good.

Odin · « **Reply #118 on:** 04 May 2011, 02:51 »

Quote from: JD on 03 May 2011, 06:43

That doesn't really count as a anime.

Please, it is animation based on a manga, there is literally no way you can say it isn't anime.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #119 on:** 04 May 2011, 04:10 »

How exactly you define anime in cases like that can be an interesting question. The word anime is used in Japanese to describe all animation, I believe, and I have always taken it personally to refer simply to all animation produced in Japan. There is no doubt that anime has also come to refer mainly to a specific style or group of styles however.

Incidentally, and slightly related, some dude at a convention once told me that the proper proununciation of anime is 'an-ee-me' rather than 'an-ee-may'. Anyone know if this is correct. I have advanced pedantic wanker syndrome and like to pronounce foreign loan words correctly, sometimes even putting on a slight accent to really get a lovely schadenfreude or smorgasbord or whatnot. Of course I guess I could just pronounce anime as in the French 'dessin anime', which I believe is where the Japanese take the term from anyway.

Anyway, that Franken Fran manga I was talking about earlier. It's really fantastic. I would describe it, improbably, as a light guro comedy, somewhere between the more comedic parts of the work of Shintaro Kago and Masamune Shirow. There's lots of body horror and some nudity but it generally avoids the really explicit sexual violence stuff you often find in the guro genre. Still totally NSFW and probably NS for normal people as well. Basic description: Our main character, Fran Madaraki is a polite, charming, slightly ditzy revenant, apparently stitched together from corpses by a mysterious scientist who is heavily implied to have been a major force behind Unit 731, as well as possibly being immortal. She is a supernaturally gifted surgeon: She will never allow a patient to die if she can help it, and she will always do what the customer wants. She also believes powerfully and naievely in true love. From these three things emerge some pretty nasty horror and pitch black comedy. Generally, Fran unknowingly acts as an agent of karmic justice. For example, in the first volume, a rich businessman leaves 90% of his estate to his playboy grandchild. The father, who has been skipped over in the inheritance, has his own son murdered, then asks Fran to bring him back to live, thinking she will create an emotionless, pliant zombie. Stirred by the powerful love of a father who will do anything to bring his dead son back to life, Fran puts the businessman under anesthetic, carves out half his brain, installs his sons brain in his skull and attaches his dead sons face (the son remembers exactly who had him killed) to the back of his own head, with a modification made to his neck so that it can swivel around 270 degrees, allowing the two faces to take alternating control of the body. Hilarity ensues!

You can read it all here

Odin · « **Reply #120 on:** 04 May 2011, 04:31 »

You're thinking about it too hard. Here, let me help you:

Blyss · « **Reply #121 on:** 04 May 2011, 06:47 »

Oh yeah - Megas XLR is pretty fucking awesome. And I love Cat Shit One - anime or not.

tender · « **Reply #122 on:** 04 May 2011, 11:11 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 04 May 2011, 04:10

The proper proununciation of anime?

Neither of those is correct, especially if you're pronouncing "an" like "Anne" ("Annie May!"). Anime in katakana:

アニメ

Looking at the characters,

ア = a (on, father)
ニ = ni (knee, anise)
メ = me (memo, Mecca)

You'd pronounce it "a-ni-me."

edit: That should be clearer, since "Uh-merica" ≠ アメリカ

Scandanavian War Machine · « **Reply #123 on:** 04 May 2011, 02:03 »

wasn't anime originally a french word anyway?

MusicScribbles · « **Reply #124 on:** 04 May 2011, 02:17 »

This is actually just a claim. Like most pop culture words, they appear from no single discernible source. The term appeared in the 70's as a Japanese cultural abbreviation for the word anime, sure. But claiming that it comes from the French word dessin animé is merely a claim. There is little proven truth in this, which is more of a logical leap than a conclusion.

tender · « **Reply #125 on:** 04 May 2011, 02:42 »

Quote from: Scandanavian War Machine on 04 May 2011, 02:03

wasn't anime originally a french word anyway?

The word was adopted from another language, but アニメ (anime) is a shorted form of アニメーション (animēshon), and the question was how to pronounce アニメ.

MusicScribbles · « **Reply #126 on:** 04 May 2011, 08:17 »

Ohp, I totally meant "The term appeared in the 70's as a Japanese cultural abbreviation for the word ANIMATION." Sorry.

tender did a better, more informed breakdown anyway.

JD · « **Reply #127 on:** 04 May 2011, 10:40 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 04 May 2011, 04:10

You can read it all here

This is rad

SirDudley · « **Reply #128 on:** 05 May 2011, 06:59 »

So, my local library decided to show some anime series (all from Funimation's stock). Last night was Trigun. God I forgot how zany that show was in its earlier episodes.

satsugaikaze · « **Reply #129 on:** 06 May 2011, 05:16 »

I think it's partially because it also stylistically followed the pattern of Trigun Maximum's very seinen-like transition, especially when Vash really gets into confronting the Gung-Ho Guns. To be honest, besides the Nebraska Family -> BDN, both the anime and manga tended to be a series of comedic sideshows that a lot of viewers today would think of as just a whole lot of filler.

But once Vash is really railroaded into confronting his pacifism, as well as exploring who the hell Knives actually was, there's much, much less comedy to be found.

ReD_RuM · « **Reply #130 on:** 12 Jun 2011, 09:41 »

Hey guys been quite a while, i was wondering if any of you heard of something new and cool?

satsugaikaze · « **Reply #131 on:** 13 Jun 2011, 06:43 »

I'm finding myself ridiculously drawn into Cromartie High School despite that it's on an entirely unique level of batshit insane I've seen in anime so far

Also, I watched Batman: Gotham Knight a while back and was moderately pleased with the animation work by the big studios.

Tiogyr · « **Reply #132 on:** 14 Jun 2011, 06:00 »

Quote from: ReD_RuM on 12 Jun 2011, 09:41

Hey guys been quite a while, i was wondering if any of you heard of something new and cool?

There is supposedly some new Gundam series in the works, but I don't know the specifics yet.

SirDudley · « **Reply #133 on:** 14 Jun 2011, 08:21 »

Quote from: Tiogyr on 14 Jun 2011, 06:00

Quote from: ReD_RuM on 12 Jun 2011, 09:41
Hey guys been quite a while, i was wondering if any of you heard of something new and cool?

There is supposedly some new Gundam series in the works, but I don't know the specifics yet.

It's called Gundam AGE which sounds so toyetic it's insane. It involves 3 generations of a family using...cards or figures of Gundams, IIRC....to battle an alien invasion. Seeing as how 00 handled aliens so smoothly (read: piledrived it into our faces at breakneck speeds in the movie)....I'm way too hesitant on AGE being a successful series. Although, Level 5 (the people behind the Professor Layton series) are invovled, so that does make me a little interested.

There's supposedly a second announcement related to Gundam on the 25th of this month. Not much else on what that's about, though.

Tiogyr · « **Reply #134 on:** 14 Jun 2011, 09:23 »

Quote from: SirDudley on 14 Jun 2011, 08:21

Quote from: Tiogyr on 14 Jun 2011, 06:00
Quote from: ReD_RuM on 12 Jun 2011, 09:41
Hey guys been quite a while, i was wondering if any of you heard of something new and cool?

There is supposedly some new Gundam series in the works, but I don't know the specifics yet.
It's called Gundam AGE which sounds so toyetic it's insane. It involves 3 generations of a family using...cards or figures of Gundams, IIRC....to battle an alien invasion. Seeing as how 00 handled aliens so smoothly (read: piledrived it into our faces at breakneck speeds in the movie)....I'm way too hesitant on AGE being a successful series. Although, Level 5 (the people behind the Professor Layton series) are invovled, so that does make me a little interested.

There's supposedly a second announcement related to Gundam on the 25th of this month. Not much else on what that's about, though.

So a mixture of Gundam and YuGiOh or Cardcaptor Sakura or whatever card animes?

Guess I'll just stick with the Rebuild of Evangelion for my giant mecha fix.

Blyss · « **Reply #135 on:** 23 Jun 2011, 08:06 »

I just got Dance in the Vampire Bund last night, though I have yet to watch it. I'll post more later on what I think of it.

pwhodges · « **Reply #136 on:** 23 Jun 2011, 08:21 »

Quote from: Tiogyr on 14 Jun 2011, 09:23

Guess I'll just stick with the Rebuild of Evangelion for my giant mecha fix.

My copy of 2.22 arrived last Monday (only just released in the UK). There appears to be no hint of when part 3 will arrive though, let alone part 4 - years, it seems.

Tiogyr · « **Reply #137 on:** 23 Jun 2011, 10:28 »

Quote from: pwhodges on 23 Jun 2011, 08:21

Quote from: Tiogyr on 14 Jun 2011, 09:23
Guess I'll just stick with the Rebuild of Evangelion for my giant mecha fix.

My copy of 2.22 arrived last Monday (only just released in the UK). There appears to be no hint of when part 3 will arrive though, let alone part 4 - years, it seems.

I'm kind of excited for part 3 & 4, as it looks like we'll actually get completely new material at the pace 2.22 went.

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #138 on:** 23 Jun 2011, 10:58 »

So has anyone seen/heard anything about this new anime that is coming to Adult Swim?

tender · « **Reply #139 on:** 23 Jun 2011, 11:18 »

Quote from: pwhodges on 23 Jun 2011, 08:21

There appears to be no hint of when part 3 will arrive though, let alone part 4 - years, it seems.

It's because Anno's such a cruel slavedriver:

Quote from: Blue Kitty on 23 Jun 2011, 10:58

So has anyone seen/heard anything about this new anime that is coming to Adult Swim?

The show is called Durarara!! and I've watched it multiple times already. Great story, with some very memorable characters.

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Cire27 · « **Reply #140 on:** 25 Jun 2011, 10:51 »

Great excuse to rewatch that.

IDMG · « **Reply #141 on:** 04 Jul 2011, 03:07 »

At a friend's request, I've tried watching some episodes of that Panty & Stocking show. Now, maybe I'm too early in to judge, but it honestly seems pretty detestable to me. Any opinions to the contrary?

CompSarge · « **Reply #142 on:** 05 Jul 2011, 01:41 »

Let's see...I'm currently watching:

Fairy Tail
Saki
Tiger & Bunny (fairly funny)

I also liked Soul Eater (obviously >.>), Bakuman, K-On, Dragon Drive, Ouran High School Host Club, and the original Dragonball. I need to expand my anime tastes, though.

Tiogyr · « **Reply #143 on:** 05 Jul 2011, 11:43 »

I finally got around to watching FLCL (was $11 on iTunes for the entire thing, vs. $30+ on DVD anywhere else).

I think I need to see more anime series to get all of the jokes, because I only actually laughed at maybe one or two things any given episode and the entire thing is billed as a parody of all other anime that was out at the time.

Cire27 · « **Reply #144 on:** 05 Jul 2011, 11:54 »

Quote from: IDMG on 04 Jul 2011, 03:07

At a friend's request, I've tried watching some episodes of that Panty & Stocking show. Now, maybe I'm too early in to judge, but it honestly seems pretty detestable to me. Any opinions to the contrary?

If you don't like it now, nothing later on is going to change your mind about it.

Jeans · « **Reply #145 on:** 08 Jul 2011, 04:04 »

...and if you do like it now, you are thirteen years old, forever.

tender · « **Reply #146 on:** 13 Jul 2011, 11:06 »

FOREVER! Haha.

I've watched a lot of the new shows for the summer season, and so far

Mawaru Penguindrum is the one I like best. Directed by Kunihiko Ikuhara (the man behind Utena, among other things).

IMMANotListening · « **Reply #147 on:** 13 Jul 2011, 08:46 »

Can anyone give me an explanation of what the hell Elfen Lied is about? I get the idea and themes of social alienation, prejudice, abuse and the value of humanity and all that jazz...but I just don't think it's a particularly good anime. Maybe I'm missing something because all I see is how the animators love the incredibly over-the-top graphic violence, hearing very mediocre voice acting and an ending that isn't even satisfactory. I mean, Evangelion gave us a unsatisfactory ending with both the show AND the movie but at least the latter was overwhelming pretty and artistic...

IDMG · « **Reply #148 on:** 14 Jul 2011, 12:16 »

I think Elfen Lied is more about pathos than anything else. If you buy into the tragedy of the main characters, than it drags your heartstrings along for the ride.

If you don't find the characters appealing, you won't like the show ever.

Also, here's to hoping that Rebuild of Evangelion has a good ending (it already has art miles ahead of the original series).

Cire27 · « **Reply #149 on:** 14 Jul 2011, 12:22 »

Quote from: tender on 13 Jul 2011, 11:06

Mawaru Penguindrum

Is anyone besides gg/nutbladder subbing it? I'd rather not have to sit through troll subs.

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