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On politics, sex, and video games
ForteBass:
It's a sad thing though because there are plenty of cases where the parents don't care. Case in point: My sister. She has five kids. Not a damn one of them is mature enough... nor old enough, quite frankly, to have GTA: Vice City. Yet, somehow, they do. That's not the stores problem, in the least. But lord only knows I wouldn't want to expose my eight year old daughter to things like beating and killing prostitutes Then again, I'm not my sister, so she probably thinks it's all cool.
As far as stores go, the guy in target did his job. The FYE here, I went in there a few times to see kids buying M rated games, and the kid is, like, 13.
One time I was actually standing on line behind a kid, no older than that, copy of GTA: San Andreas in hand. He was on the line that one of the store managers was ringing up customers at... not only did the manager sell it to him, he was talking about how cool the game is with this kid. It's because of things like that I agree the stores should get in trouble.
3Z3VH:
I honestly don't see how any of that stuff has any of the adverse affects these "experts" say they do. I know when I was 13 I was digging through my dad's playboys he hid in the garage... I'm not some sort of sex fiend nowadays because of it. I played Wolfenstein 3-D as a 15 year old kid... I am not out screaming "Sieg Heil !" and mowing down people and dogs with a chaingun.
In fact, I am rather tame (yeah, shocking, I know).
The problem isn't the fact that these games show us this stuff, it's how the children were raised, or chemical imbalances they have that cause them to be in the emotional state to do evil shit. Getting rid of the games would do nothing to address these kids' problems. They will only find some other "inspiration" to commit the crimes they do. I know for a fact that watching Teletubbies for a couple hours every day would make me a LOT more homicidal than any gory 3-D shooter game.
Phrozen:
Meh, I've been playing pretty violent games for a long time. I think I got Diablo(rated M for gore and nudity) when I was in 5th grade. I don't know if I should have had that game though...
I say the ratings are there for a reason, we don't let minors go into r-rated movies so why let them play M-rated games? I think it's ok to punish retailers who are not responsible.
And no I don't think video games make kids violent. they come out of the womb violent.
3Z3VH:
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And no I don't think video games make kids violent. they come out of the womb violent.
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I think they are raised violent, or develop a chemical imbalance. I don't think they are "born" violent.
happybirthdaygelatin:
shit i think it varies from child to child and parent to parent. we live in a world that in alot of ways is sick and down right barbaric. we live in society that white washes things a little too much but certainly not nearly as bad as it could.
grand theft auto as a series is something that a mature and inquestive mind can look at as form of analysis of society in alot of ways. i say mature because i think it's more true to say that only adults should say play it because that is bullshit as i'm sure there are more mature and intilgent adolcents then my self.
for required reading in the ninth grade i read (not all of i admit, i was really bad student technicaly) black boy by richard wright. i know it details his life growing up in a racist segrated community but the only thing that actually has stuck with me the most since i've read it was the part where it describes how he tortures a cat.
now that's fucked up. do i think it should be taken out of schools? regulated so only those at the age of 18 can read it? FUCK NO. i think that key to growing up and maturing is comming to terms with the fucked up things in the world. to completly "protect the children" is to cause them the most harm. to completly ignore the brutality of life just leads to ignorance. parents are an important part of this process, that's a big fucking duh. learning to tell the difference between fiction, fact and what is percieved as fact are important.
besides violent video games are a good form of catharsis. at least for me.
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