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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: ysth on 02 Aug 2009, 21:44
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Welcome Marigold Farmer (!) to twitter (http://twitter.com/marigoldfarmer).
Ustream (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/qc-show) starting soon.
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No, get it, "gold farmer" ? It's like tai_fighter
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So Faye was overcoming fears when she was so assertive-seeming during the introduction scene in strip number 4? Interesting, and it makes sense. She still seems to have trouble. Someone (remind me who so I can give proper credit) pointed out that in the scene where we saw her cell phone's contact list there were precious few entries in it.
Yay for Assertive But Not Channeling Her Mom Hannelore!
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Hanners looks so happy in the first cell. Everyones favorite OCD girls sure has come a long way since Marten encountered her in the bathroom of that bar: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=515
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Poor Marten, once again he gets to be the glue that holds everything together. Trouble is he's got Faye holding on to his left arm, Hanners to his right, Dora's got his...
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got his 3rd arm that has grown out his back.
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I love Marten's line in the last panel.
Poor dude is probably unlucky enough for it to happen, too.
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The girl after Marigold is who he should be worrying about.
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got his 3rd arm that has grown out his back.
Right, except its not an arm, even if its also a three letter word and also starts with an "a".
The girl after Marigold is who he should be worrying about.
Hmmmmmm I better dont contemplate about that one.
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Poor Marten, once again he gets to be the glue that holds everything together. Trouble is he's got Faye holding on to his left arm, Hanners to his right, Dora's got his...
got his 3rd arm that has grown out his back.
got his 3rd arm that has grown out his back.
Right, except its not an arm, even if its also a three letter word and also starts with an "a".
The girl after Marigold is who he should be worrying about.
Hmmmmmm I better not contemplate about that one.
Really guys? I'd figure that she would just grab his dick/penis/insert slang here. No need to beat around the bush.
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No need to beat around the bush.
(http://www.filehurricane.com/viewerthumbnails/6102008101926AM_oh.jpg)
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Leg, you perverts, leg! :evil:
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No, Marten, she's going to make you watch all the uncensored yaoi with her, after which you'll start gouging out your eyes because THEY'RE BURNING.
Oh wait, you're the son of Veronica Vance. You'll live. :mrgreen:
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Maybe she's a Veronica Vance fangirl? I mean, Dora knowing she's into girls because of his mom is one thing, but Marten'd probably self-immolate if Marigold asked him to get her an autograph...
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man, hannelore is so cute in this one. it just makes my head wanna pop.
i dunno if it's just me, but marten looks like he is gaining weight lately. not in a bad way, but the past few strips he looks a bit less lanky.
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That has a tendency to happen to dudes in their mid twenties.
(also Jeph's art keeps changing (nearly exclusively for the better (nested parenthesis RAWK!)) so it's probably a symptom of artistic improvement)
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Faye bullied her way in, Hanners stalked, Marigold fixed Pintsize, the next one will buy him a nice suit or set him up with a better job.
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Set him up with a better job would be Natasha and/or Tai.
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Martin is so going to get stabbed.
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Who the hell is Martin?
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^ This bothers me too, but clearly we all know who they mean, and it's a common mistake. Can we just let this kind of thing go?
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Okay, this was a cute strip. I just knew Hanners and Marigold would become bffs and it's cute how she's worried over her, making sure Faye is nice to her and all.
Also, poor Marten. I have a feeling he likes the abuse though. Maybe he's more like his mother than he ever thought. :O
i dunno if it's just me, but marten looks like he is gaining weight lately. not in a bad way, but the past few strips he looks a bit less lanky.
I've noticed that too. I kind of like more buff Marten, but it doesn't work well with all the scrawny indie boy jokes. But it probably is just Jeph and him improving his art.
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i, too, have a feeling that it's kind of like how faye gets curvier and curvier as jeph's art improves. and didn't someone bring up in a previous threat that dora was getting a little less skin-and-bones in comics as of late?
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Oh yeah you're right, people have been mentioning that lately. So yeah, for sure is art style changing then.
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It was nice to see Hanner's happy like that. And Faye, agreeing not to sass somebody who is easily sassed? I'm looking forward to that.
*Puts 10 bucks down* I bet by the end of the night, Marten has at least one knife wound.
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I dunno i think he is trying to make Marten more mannish than boyish. But it is cute that Hanners is protecting her new friend.
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I'm no shipper, but she seemed a little overprotective...
Thoughts?
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Maybe Marten's been working out. He was doing situps already, maybe Faye inspired him or Dora encouraged him to add pushups as well.
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I read it as Hanners being empathetic, and also not wanting her new friend to be driven away.
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You're probably right.
All this talk of Hannigold has me in a skewed frame of mind.
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It's probably a good thing that Hanners and Marigold are so socially inept. If they didn't have their crippling anxieties they'd be truly dangerous, especially teamed together.
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Hanners is pretty fierce when she gets riled up! I'm glad she set Faye straight ahead of time. I don't think that Marigold could deal well with her *SCORN* like she did to Angus.
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Ooh, a throwback punch! I hope the warmth of nostalgia holds fast while Marten's getting his jaw fixed.
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Ooooh Mother Hen Hanners. She's so cute like that.
I think Faye should start a 'Punch Marten In The Arm' day for herself just for nostalgia's sake :D
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I agree with Faye, her physical attacks on Marten really do bring up some great memories.
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Hah! Faye just got BURRRRRRRRNED. Is that the ballsiest thing Marten has ever said to Faye?
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Grr Faye doesnt suck grrr. :x
Even if I liked pre-Sven Faye a LOT more than current Faye.
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Hah! Faye just got BURRRRRRRRNED. Is that the ballsiest thing Marten has ever said to Faye?
Nah man, Marten's grabbed her ass before. Although I guess that doesn't fall under ballsiest thing SAID to but, it's still pretty ballsy.
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"Let's go bang" took some nerve even as a joke.
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"Let's go bang" took some nerve even as a joke.
Yeah, I think that takes the cake for ballsiest Marten quote. This ranks up there though.
How long HAS it been since Faye last punched Marten? I'm too lazy to look back in the strips...
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I'm pretty sure it was before "The Talk" but it was almost certainly before He and Dora started dating.
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wow, now that i think about it, it HAS been quite a long time since she's physically abused him.
he was way overdue.
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And if Marten was going to break the fourth wall, he could have mentioned that the author would still be in his previous job, having the soul leeched from him just a little more each day.
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its been mentioned somewhere (i'm not sure where, or even if it was actually mentioned!) that jeph has no desire to break the fourth wall.
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Good. I hate comics that break the fourth wall. You know a comic is going to be bad if the first strip is like "So, we're two guys sitting on a couch, no one will want to read this."
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Spontaneous Interlude is as close as you're going to get to 4th wall breaking
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Well, yeah. Yelling Bird breaks the 4th wall all the time, as did the turkeys. More on topic: Marten is going to get punched :-D
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Good. I hate comics that break the fourth wall. You know a comic is going to be bad if the first strip is like "So, we're two guys sitting on a couch, no one will want to read this."
Especially when it spends the next few years not making any jokes.
Marten has been pretty amusing recently.
I think he's going to earn his stab in the face.
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Marigold goes out with the group, meets some dude we havnt seen in a long time and hits it off (Amir?) and the new drama occurs. Or she gets intimate with Tai. :wink:
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Continuity error, that noticing means I probably need to get out more.
A LOT more.
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=9
He went to CoD, and #10 implies that he went there several times before #4, where Faye introduced herself. He still would have met Dora, but then again, he probably wouldn't have gone out with her.
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I don't often make friends with the people who serve me coffee/food/alcohol/blahblahblah. I'd hardly call it a continuity error. If he hadn't become friends with Faye, Dora would be "the girl in the coffee shop".
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Oh man, I can relate on so many levels to Marigold right now.
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Faye is a super bitch.
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You know a comic is going to be bad if the first strip is like "So, we're two guys sitting on a couch, no one will want to read this."
I c wat u did thar.
Love the anime action lines behind Marigold's face in panel 5. I actually went though a "Oh God People, Why" phase, and I've done this before. Though never in front of 2 way glass :)
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Oh, now this one made me laugh hard. The full-cast (well, the main cast, anyway) lineup in the last panel is too perfect.
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Wasn't there a strip consensus about the ethics of betting on other people's mental health?
Without Faye, Dora might have pounced on Marten. Sara thought about asking him out, and Dora was just the type who'd go ahead and do it.
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I look nothing like Marigold, but this strip makes me realize that I spend most of my time looking exactly like Marigold.
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Well, it's no Uber-Dramatic Potato Chip Eating, but this strip does make Entering A Bar suitably dramatic! :)
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And the three people behind her are about to push her into the bar, or tell her to get out of the flippin' way so they can get to the beer.
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I rather like the idea of Hanners dragging her in to the Bar.
Super Assertive Hannelore strikes!
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Oh wow my heart totally goes out to Marigold on this one. I know EXACTLY how she feels.
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She needs the t-shirt from the xkcd store that says "Just Shy, Not Antisocial. You Can Talk To Me".
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Oh Jeph, that tinted glass is truly cruel. I love it.
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Great comic today. I love the shot of everyone at the bar. And the intense split screen of Marigold trying to bring herself to open the door. Great work, Jeph!
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Marigold doesn't look glaringly different after a Momo-tan grooming session.
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Holy cow, I forgot that I used to do what Marigold is doing here. It seemed perfectly reasonable at the time, too.
This is a very good strip! I submit to you that Mr. Jeph has Been There.
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I expected Marigold to look ... better.
And why does Hanners drink wine and Faye doesnt drink anything at all ?
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Dora's the designated mother hen for the night. Hanners is there to support Marigold, and Faye's being Faye. Which means Marten's dead meat, as usual.
Wednesday strip has been marinated in awesomesauce and topped with epic win.
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Mother Hen is a good descritpion for Dora. i tend to look at her and Marten as Husband and wife, while Faye and Hanners are there daughters, all in a symbolic sense of course.
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This comic reminds me of a bar in Vegas, just off Fremont St... Downtown Cocktail Room (or just "Downtown" cause that's all the sign says). There's an alcove in the wall face underneath the sign, but it looks like it's just walls on either side and a pane of mirrored glass in the middle... like so: |_________| Turns out one of the walls is a door that you push open. And the funniest part is it's SUPER dark in there and the mirrored glass is really a one-way window/mirror so you can watch people trying to figure out where the door is. The bathrooms are worse. The stall walls are one-way mirrors with no handles, so you have to figure out which mirror is the door... while you're inside doing your business, you can see right out into the main part of the bathroom... it's extremely disorienting especially when someone else comes in the bathroom. You can see them but they can't see you. Unless you're checking your cell phone while doing your business... any source of light and you're exposed.
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Anyone notice that Faye doesn't seem to have a drink? Unless it's slightly out-of-panel.
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This is the first comic in a while where the joke was completely unexpected and hilarious. Marigold might not look much different, but we can't read how she smells, can we?
Speaking of odd toilet doors: There was a toilet in a Berlin restaurant where the doors of all the stalls were made of clear glass. No mirroring anywhere, you can see through both sides. Only when you go inside, close the door, and turn the lock, the glass becomes white instantly. Now that is pretty cool.
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Marigold doesn't look glaringly different after a Momo-tan grooming session.
Her hair is brushed.
Marigold might not look much different, but we can't read how she smells, can we?
Exactly. If you think of any slobby, unclean people you know, the noticeable uncleanliess is not necessarily visible. It's smell, and sometimes demeanour. Not necessarily something that can be drawn. Plus, it's not like Momo could clear up her acne in one shower.
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Why can't more people make this kind of effort to reach out to people?
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Because when they do, there is no chibi anthro PC forcing the person to reach back.
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Because when they do, there is no chibi anthro PC forcing the person to reach back.
Haha, that made me laugh. The world would be wonderful if everyone constantly made friends like in the QCniverse. We started with so few characters and mostly thanks to random introductions TADA! Here we are.
In other news, the people in the background of the last panel look really confused/scared/shocked. Why? Maybe because the girl with red hair behind Marten is flashing.
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Is it me or does this seem to be the wrong comic. I saw this one early last night and according to his twitter he was still working on today's comic. I just checked again and his twitter says he is finally done with today's comic 11hours ago which was after this comic posted so im thinking he forgot to upload the newest comic. Also this comic is dated yesterday. Anyways just thought i might of missed something.
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In other news, the people in the background of the last panel look really confused/scared/shocked. Why? Maybe because the girl with red hair behind Marten is flashing.
Or maybe they're watching Marigold struggling to open the bar door and wondering "WTF is her problem?" After all, unlike our main cast, they don't know that Marigold is socially inept-what would you think if you saw some woman acting like Marigold, and she was a total stranger?
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Is it me or does this seem to be the wrong comic. I saw this one early last night and according to his twitter he was still working on today's comic. I just checked again and his twitter says he is finally done with today's comic 11hours ago which was after this comic posted so im thinking he forgot to upload the newest comic. Also this comic is dated yesterday. Anyways just thought i might of missed something.
It's you. As I understand it, the comics are posted basically in the middle of the night Jeph-time (What that means for you, I don't know, but here it means they come up at about 3-4 in the afternoon most days). So the comic for the 5th could be posted late at night on the 4th. The one that is up now (Marigold and the door) is for Wednesday the 5th. Jeph has done then next one in advance so that he can have the day off.
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guess im just going off of his tweets which had him still drawing the comic after this one was posted. Also they mentioned panel one being extremely hard and i'm not an artist but panel one here doesnt seem to be all that hard. Not as hard as some of the ones ive seen him do. Anyways im prolly wrong but thot id point it out.
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jeph did this recent comic and the next back-to-back, as opposed to on different days, to give himself a day off.
and i do think marigold looks more groomed than normal. she's apparently brushed her hair, and i assume she isn't a stinkybutt.
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Marigold doesn't look glaringly different after a Momo-tan grooming session.
Her hair is brushed.
Marigold might not look much different, but we can't read how she smells, can we?
Exactly. If you think of any slobby, unclean people you know, the noticeable uncleanliess is not necessarily visible. It's smell, and sometimes demeanour. Not necessarily something that can be drawn. Plus, it's not like Momo could clear up her acne in one shower.
ah reminds me of my first girlfriend in high school. met at the dance went out for a week, but I realized she only bathed to go to the dance, and didnt bath after... After I broke up with her I could always tell she was nearby...the smells...were smelly.
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And why does Hanners drink wine and Faye doesnt drink anything at all ?
Hannelore usually has wine.
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Hanners has also expressed her likeness of martinis.
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Hanners has also expressed her likeness of martinis.
Did she say she liked them shaken or stirred? ;)
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I wonder if Marigold feels better, or worse, now?
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I love Fancy-Hat Bartender.
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Just speaking for myself... I'd turn around, walk out of that bar, go home, and refuse to speak to any of the people who set me up until Hanners came over and made me feel like crap for cutting them out when they really were just trying to be nice. I'd still probably never go to that bar again.
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Walking into a bar and having everyone staring at you is my brother's worst nightmare. It totally creeps him out. He'd probably just turn and run out!
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Walking into a bar and having everyone staring at you is my brother's worst nightmare. It totally creeps him out. He'd probably just turn and run out!
Ergh, it certainly isn't pleasant for much people. I'm surprised Marigold didn't run out!
I love fancy outfit waiter, I guess that explains why the bar had some when Marten and Angus ordered them the one night! Hanners and Faye's faces in the third panel is cute as fuuuck! I don't know why Faye's is cute, but it is.
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Just speaking for myself... I'd turn around, walk out of that bar, go home, and refuse to speak to any of the people who set me up until Hanners came over and made me feel like crap for cutting them out when they really were just trying to be nice. I'd still probably never go to that bar again.
That's restrained of you. I'd be planning finding a new apartment and packing and moving to never have to see any of them again.
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lol
Yay for Marigold. I fully expected the last panel to be running out in terror. Shows courage staying.
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im surprised she didn't run out again.
I know i would be incredably frightened by all that clapping.
It was very cute though.
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There was only one perfect ending to this situation. Nailed it.
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You know what I have noticed since I went back to see how Faye and Marten met? Faye says AnthroPC's are suppose to have Holograms. Strip Five. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=5)
Perhaps Pintsize shall get a chassis with a Hologram machine?
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That outfit doesn't bring this shot out of the Awkward Zone near as much as the last time...
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I wonder if Marigold feels better, or worse, now?
Worse. Easily worse.
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Why do I have this sinking suspicion that QC is slowly turning into Wondermark?
I'm onto you, Malki !!
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Actually, when I saw the title I expected the punchline to involve the entire bar, in unison, shouting "MARIGOLD!"
Or perhaps "ANTON!"
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I wonder if Marigold feels better, or worse, now?
Worse. Easily worse.
Nothing like a really shy person suddenly becoming a centre of attention to make you feeel really shy and give you the need to get the hell outta Dodge. Even if there's $20 of free drinks (probably 3 drinks and the tips)
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I would just like to point something out.
The man in the monocle and the tophat? The bartender. He is Darren, of Dernworks. He be awesome.
EY YO DERN.
Jeph paid $150 in the Webcomics Auction at Connecticon on his own auction item for the privilege of drawing him. XD
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If I walked into a bar and everyone started clapping, I would take a bow.
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i'd grin, embarrassed, and wave. then go up to the bar and get a drink.
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yeah, that's probably what i would do. i'd like to say i would do something brave like bow, but i know in reality i would just kind of smile awkwardly and go down a few shots so i could forget how mortified i was.
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Oh boy, just what someone with severe social anxiety needs: to be the center of attention in a public place full of strangers. :roll:
At least she didn't run out of the bar screaming.
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Anyone else not get the comic via RSS?
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Marigold got major points from me for opening that door. :)
As Jimbo undoubtedly would have put it, "woooo!!"
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Oh boy, just what someone with severe social anxiety needs: to be the center of attention in a public place full of strangers. :roll:
At least she didn't run out of the bar screaming.
If it were me I would go into a catatonic state until people stopped looking at me, and even then I probably wouldn't be myself for the rest of the night. Running out screaming would be plan C.
... you don't want to know about Plan B.
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yeah, that's probably what i would do. i'd like to say i would do something brave like bow, but i know in reality i would just kind of smile awkwardly and go down a few shots so i could forget how mortified i was.
haha exactly! :-D
now if everyone in the bar was dressed like the bartender (or for the time period for the ladies) and this happened I would just be utterly confused. :mrgreen:... damn now I want a top hat and monocle.
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I've always wanted a top hat and monocle. This just solidifies my desire.
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great comic. However, I can say that Faye is one of the more annoying characters around.
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I have social anxiety and the worst part is before. I'd be just like Marigold, except there would be more scenes of me walking away from the bar and around the block a few times, possibly all the way home to have a panic attack, then back and around the block a few times. When I finally went in and found the people I was meant to meet I'd be completely fine. Even with the cheering. I'd just laugh it off and be okay. Until afterwards, when I'd go into super analysing mode. Maybe. I'm getting better at stopping myself doing the social post-mortems. SA isn't just shyness to the max, it's certain bits of certain situations that trigger it, and you don't have to be shy as well.
There is finally a QC character I can relate to! After 5+ years of reading! Not that I couldn't relate to the others, but they were all so different from me.
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yeah, that's probably what i would do. i'd like to say i would do something brave like bow, but i know in reality i would just kind of smile awkwardly and go down a few shots so i could forget how mortified i was.
See, I'm an egotistical motherfucker sometimes, so I'd respond with a jaunty salute and then rent one of those fancy suits.
EDIT: then again, I wouldn't have spent half an hour dithering in the street....
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HAHA, I think it's funny and endearing how Marigold has a crippling fear of bars/strangers. I like where the comic is going.
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great comic. However, I can say that Faye is one of the more annoying characters around.
Does she feel challenged for position as most in mental ill health? (Hannelore doesn't count; she really has been coping so well with her OCD that it doesn't come out much with other people. Animals, on the other hand...)
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Oh boy, just what someone with severe social anxiety needs: to be the center of attention in a public place full of strangers. :roll:
At least she didn't run out of the bar screaming.
If it were me I would go into a catatonic state until people stopped looking at me, and even then I probably wouldn't be myself for the rest of the night. Running out screaming would be plan C.
... you don't want to know about Plan B.
Set something on fire?
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Oh boy, just what someone with severe social anxiety needs: to be the center of attention in a public place full of strangers. :roll:
At least she didn't run out of the bar screaming.
If it were me I would go into a catatonic state until people stopped looking at me, and even then I probably wouldn't be myself for the rest of the night. Running out screaming would be plan C.
... you don't want to know about Plan B.
Set something on fire?
Sounds good enough to make it plan A.
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Given that the earth never opens up to swallow you when you actually need it to.
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Ah, teetotaler in a bar. How many people will try to buy her a drink to "get her to open up," I wonder?
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Anybody who tries anything will have to get through Dora first! <SMACK>
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Marigold, honey, if you want a Mountain Dew, Goddammit, get a Mountain Dew!
LIVE HOW YOU WANNA LIVE, BABY!!!!
If, on the other hand you want a beer, but are unfamiliar with your choices, Marten will totally hook you up!
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There is a typo in there. It should be called MTN DEW.
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I feel so bad for Marigold. Not to mention I am exactly like her. I want to try out different beers but have NO IDEA HOW TO ORDER. I also have a mild case of social anxiety, so that doesn't help either. I don't want to look like a total ass at the bar or a newb.
Poor, poor Marigold. This is also one of the few times where I would call Faye a bitch. I normally don't think that (and frequently agree with her), but I think her comment was really uncalled for, and would definitely cause someone like me to just gtfo of the bar.
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Somebody get the poor girl a Sam Adams Summer Ale. :mrgreen:
Also: Faye getting smacked by Dora was my favorite moment of this comic.
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I don't typically say stuff like this, but this comic was kinda cute. Marten's so damn clueless and nice that he works really well with just about every female in the cast, I think. And the fact that he accidentally makes Marigold look kinda... Well, out of her element.
...I have no idea what I'm trying to say. I LIKED IT. THERE. :|
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http://xkcd.com/1463x.png (http://xkcd.com/1463x.png)
Just wanted to share this in case somebody doesn't have the Twit feed from the home page.
FUNNEH. :-D
P.S. Oh, and Google Translate is also funneh, it stated that Fehlerbrauerei meant "Error Brewery" in German. O.o
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Also: Faye getting smacked by Dora was my favorite moment of this comic.
Yes :lol: That was awesome. Plus, after a little search: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/read.cgi?id=20090807&tid=3192595 is a little chat about the meaning of a certain Fehlerbrauerei kugelschweiss. The conclusion seemed to be "Failbrewery Ballsweat"
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Incidentally If any of you are ever in Cleveland and want to drink at a bar like this.. .
Seek the Bier Market on west 25th you wont be disappointed.
All they play is indie music and the beer is good.
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Beer is good - but I suspect that Marigold may need a training beer - say, a Dragon Stout.
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hahaha I like how Marigold is blushing in the last 2 bannels. First because she orders a soda, and then because she doesnt know beers. Its cool marigold, if you dont know just say :-D . Makes me think of when I took my younger brother into a bar about a week ago. This was his first time in a bar and he was just sitting there. I went up to him (I had about 8 different drinks in me at the time) and said to him "Don't tell me your the only guy to go to a bar and not buy a drink!" handed him a $20 bill. "What should I get?" he asked. "Look at the different label tabs, or just get a guiness." Being that I had one in my hand at the time (drink number 9), though probably not the best drink to start with. Psh and after the hard work me and some people did to smuggle him into the bar(him 18, me 23). haha. But nah I didnt say it all angry like faye, mine was jokingly and motivational to get him to expereince a bar.
my shannenigans are cheeky and cute, fayes shannenigans are cruel and tragic. Which doesnt make them shennenigans at all...EVIL shannenigans.
drink up marigold, and losen up. Have fun and it wont be so bad. :-D
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I want to hit Faye too. I know she can be a meanie but I've never really considered her a bully. I've always seen her as someone who mocks those who can take it or who ask for it. She likes to push boundaries which I get. Even Hannelore was much more equipped to handle Faye's meanness than Marigold. She's clearly skittish and shy and it's vicious of her to be such a bitch to someone so ill-equipped to handle it. Plus it's like shooting fish in a barrel. It doesn't take any creativity at all to mock someone so damn... mockable. I want Hannelore to go off on Faye before the end of the night and give her back some of her own.
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this is how i feel in exotic restaurants. i WANT to try new things, but i don't want to look like an idiot or get something i hate. i also feel the same way about beer. i don't like cheap american beer, so i am skittish to try anything else. and who wants to embarrass themselves in a bar? (a: not me, or marigold)
marigold should just get a fruity-ass mixed drink. it's like koolaid with added social lubrication.
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Oh man "fail ball sweat" oh you mean Kokanee :p I felt compelled comment. Basically even though I'm kinda tuned into the beer culture ie read the articles, watch
the other Micheal Jackson (Beer Hunter) reruns etc. I still get a little nervious (oh god my spelling again) at the beer store. The thing is I've found that even though
I should know better it usually comes down to being adventurous and trying all kinds of beers. That being said I recently bought a six of Central City's Red Racer IPA.
It was loaded with hops (says so on the can). I'm ashamed to say it but I didn't like it. The bizzare thing is the last IPA (Alexanders) i tryed was really good. So now i'm
really confused. Top that off my bud's pal was in town and he hands me this green can (forgot what brand) beer with lime in it. Tried that and was ok but it basically tasted like "fail ball sweat" NOW WITH LIME !!! Great lets have 2 more of those. Next time I'm gonna stick with my usual Cream Ale but see if there's any brands I haven't tryed yet. Or better yet do eenie meanie minie moe in the German import section. That and hope its "yellow" (unfiltered wheat ale perhaps).
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Yeah, the thing with beers/ales/stouts is that while they fall into categories like IPA, individual brewers will have individual results based on their ingredients (up to and including the water they use) and experience. And with a category as generic as IPA (for India Pale Ale i.e. that which is hopped to fuck and back in order to not go stale on the boat to India [from England]) your mileage may vary by a lot - initially, IPA were literally beers with three or four times more hops than usual (hops are a natural antibiotic) but then returning soldiers and merchants found they had developed a taste for this previously report only gunk and then people started brewing with the final super-sour taste in mind and a whole new market was born.
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Again, I can relate to Marigold. The poor girl! I want to give her a hug!
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Mountain Dew is teh nerd booze
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Faye did that after Hannelore told her explicitly in advance not to be mean to Marigold, and right after Dora had dropped a broad hint that being mean to Marigold would be out of bounds.
Oh, my. If Marigold doesn't know her way around alcohol, introducing her to it could go horribly wrong.
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Faye is mean to everyone she just meets. It's like a compulsion or something.
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this is how i feel in exotic restaurants. i WANT to try new things, but i don't want to look like an idiot or get something i hate. i also feel the same way about beer. i don't like cheap american beer, so i am skittish to try anything else. and who wants to embarrass themselves in a bar? (a: not me, or marigold)
marigold should just get a fruity-ass mixed drink. it's like koolaid with added social lubrication.
hehe blue moon and dogfish are great! and I'll try different sam adams drinks anyday. I find that if I go to a bar and I dont recognize any of the beers to ask the bartender and they generally can make a good suggestion for you. Also going to the beer and bourbon festivals are a great way to try new beers...and whiskeys! :-D
yeah come to think of it, my first drink in a bar wasnt a beer. It was a red headed slut (good) then an alien orgasm (lemony), and jager bombs. I think I tried other stuff too that night but it was a blurr. 21st birthday rocked! But I agree with you nichidani, start off with something fruity. It looks to me like this is Marigold's first time in a bar. I honestly wondered if she was of age in todays comic because of how scared and unsure she seemed, but then again its been awhile since my first bar expirence, it did remind me of my brother though haha. Plus she does hace social anxiety. I just hope she has fun. Which is the name of the game!
now i feel like listening to the "Fuck you im drunk" song. OoO its friday, maybe I'll head to rocket bar.
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Get her started on Steinlager then move her on to Guinness :D
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Meh, I guess I'm the only one who didn't think what Faye said to Marigold was ZOMGebil!! It's not like she said "Mountain Dew in a beer bar, haha that's so lame!" or whatever, she only remarked it was an odd choice to make, but in a forward manner.
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Spoilers: It turns out Marigold gets really uninhibited after a few.
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Meh, I guess I'm the only one who didn't think what Faye said to Marigold was ZOMGebil!! It's not like she said "Mountain Dew in a beer bar, haha that's so lame!" or whatever, she only remarked it was an odd choice to make, but in a forward manner.
Still a damn insensitive thing to say to someone way out of their social depth. Faye really needs to start developing as a character.
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*shrug* I don't see what's so insensitive about it. It wasn't mocking, it wasn't an accusation. If anything, Marigold needs people who treat her like a normal person, not walk on eggshells around her.
In fact, what bothered me was that Dora already singled out Faye as the "mean one" even before she said anything.
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a good beer to start on and definitely fruity would be Lambic Framboise. little expensive but it tastes nothing like beer. also to help her shyness it has more alcohol content than most reg beers
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*shrug* I don't see what's so insensitive about it. It wasn't mocking, it wasn't an accusation. If anything, Marigold needs people who treat her like a normal person, not walk on eggshells around her.
In fact, what bothered me was that Dora already singled out Faye as the "mean one" even before she said anything.
are you serious? she had trouble just walking into a bar. there's a time for eggshells, and this is it.
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Anyone else notice that Marten is wearing his infamous Sweatshirt? Didn't he and Dora frame it because it was old and smelled of french fries?
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Oh look, someone who feels the same way I do about beer.
Mind you, these days I don't think much better of Mountain Dew... gimme a Barq's or A&W root beer, or something citrusy of the Sprite/7-up or Squirt variety.
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Anyone else notice that Marten is wearing his infamous Sweatshirt? Didn't he and Dora frame it because it was old and smelled of french fries?
An earlier comic stated he had more.
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And there's no possible way that he went to a store and bought a NEW black hoodie.
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Dora: "How many of those black hoodies do you have in your closet?"
Marten: "I don't know anymore. I think they're multiplying back there."
Faye: "Hah! Even your clothes get more action than you!"
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Ah, beer. I have the advantage of having a parental unit (and her boyfriend) and a brother who all have quite a bit of alcohol knowledge. So, when I'm out with friends I just drink something I know I like, and when with family I take their recommendations. Too easy. Plus, Mama lives three houses from a pub, so we're friendly with the owners and they make recommendations whenever I go to visit too.
In other news:
In fact, what bothered me was that Dora already singled out Faye as the "mean one" even before she said anything.
I agree.
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And if there were a coral snake in the bar, Dora would have told Marigold, "watch out, there's a venomous snake". What a terrible person.
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Citation for Marten having many additional hoodies (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=560)
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Lurking forever, posting for the first time... had to get in on the fancy beer discussion. For those of you in the Boston, Mass. area, go to Cambridge and hit up John Harvard's -- the Oatmeal Stout is the best I've ever had. A times square microbrew (can't remember the name, its on 43rd st in NYC) had the best Harvest Wheat I've ever had as well. Highly recommend both those if you're a "coin-a-soor." Also, for those in the Rochester, NY area, go to MacGreggor's Grill and Tap Room just south of Rochester in Henrietta. There had to be at least 200 different beers on tap from all over the world.
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I have family (a LARGE family) in Walpole, next time I visit I'll head into the city and check out that place. Thanks Jerift!
As can be seen in thursday's comic, Dora is already in Maternal Instincs mode over Marigold. I think it was more of just a natural thing for her.
I do agree, Faye has seemed different latley, more cruel in a way, but thats probably from the emotional trama from Sven. When was the last time she saw the doc?
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are you serious? she had trouble just walking into a bar. there's a time for eggshells, and this is it.
Lots of people feel anxiety in various social situations. Constantly referring to their anxiety by treating them differently reinforces their beliefs that there is something to be afraid of. I'm not saying people shouldn't take her anxiety into consideration, but constantly fretting over every comment they make isn't the best way to put Marigold at ease; in my opinion at least.
And if there were a coral snake in the bar, Dora would have told Marigold, "watch out, there's a venomous snake". What a terrible person.
And if there were a venomous snake in the bar, everyone would run screaming. They wouldn't exactly be thinking of socializing with it. Then again, Dora's pseudo-maternal attitude towards characters she feels the need to "take under her wing" has always irked me.
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Citation for Marten having many additional hoodies (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=560)
Wow. I really really got that quote wrong.
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poor marigold. she's going to have one hell of a night.
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When Marigold said she wanted mountain dew she did not mean ordinary, common folk mountain dew. I suspect she had this in mind: http://drmcninja.com/page.php?pageNum=24&issue=15 (http://drmcninja.com/page.php?pageNum=24&issue=15)
It is Faye and the rest who are ill informed.
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nahhh, she is a WoW addict. the regular yellow stuff she means. I like Dew but not that much.
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Ach. So awkward of a situation to be in.
I feel for Marigold. This is probably the first time she has ever been in a bar before. Or, you know, anywhere besides her apartment.
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i think marigold is going to be fine. a little nervous at first, but fine.
faye has seemed a little more bitchy in recent comics, now that someone's (or, rather, a few people have) mentioned it. it doesn't seem to be done as lovingly anymore, either. faye's meanness has kind of evolved from a sort of sarcastic joking to genuine bitchiness.
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That was there all along, on and off. I agree she's regressing.
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are you serious? she had trouble just walking into a bar. there's a time for eggshells, and this is it.
Well, there is a proverb in my country which states "One who wants to eat a walnut, must be able to bite through the shell". If she can not handle this little pressure or whatever you might call it, perhaps the bar is not the right enviroment for her to be. ( Then, anyway in online games there is much more bullshitting and insults, so she likely has experience) Remember , as far as pastimes go getting drunk is not superior to wasting time online. Anyway i would say Dora is being overprotective (Hanners is just Hanners ...)
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i think marigold is going to be fine. a little nervous at first, but fine.
faye has seemed a little more bitchy in recent comics, now that someone's (or, rather, a few people have) mentioned it. it doesn't seem to be done as lovingly anymore, either. faye's meanness has kind of evolved from a sort of sarcastic joking to genuine bitchiness.
I agree, I think Faye needs to be put in her place again. Then again I think it was lovingly with Marten because she had feelings for Marten. After she has gotten used to Dora and Marten dating she was kinda with Sven. With Sven, Marten, and Angus (though less so) she has always had the joking sarcasm meaness. Latley she has seemed more mean and Dora did mention something about it and commissioned the sculpture.
Thinking right now with the dialog, I think it wasnt Faye being mean now. I think its one of those foot in mouth type of blurting out what you said without considering someones feelings. I am sure everyone has done that a couple of times and landed in hot water. She isnt purposley being mean to Marigold. But hey lets wait till monday and see if she has lighten up yet. Faye did say she has a hard time breaking the ice.
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i think it's just how she showed affection, and it is becoming more of a personality trait, really. and it probably has a lot to do with her getting hurt by sven
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Look at how how Mountain Dew was typed/said in the third panel. It clearly wasn't a regular question, but an accusation/negative remark commonly seen in Bitchy-Faye. Dora clearly picked up on the fact that going to the bar itself was a big step for Marigold, and isn't letting Faye ruin what social progress could be made.
Over-analyzing characters whoooo.
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Look, tone of voice could entirely determine whether Faye was just being jokey or whether she was being mean. Since we can't actually hear it, we're just guessing.
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Wow, aren't some of you self righteous. God forbid someone not notice a single word bubble in 1465 comic strips.
What are you talking about?
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And peer pressure gets one more person drinking alcohol when they don't wish to. Yay? :|
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Alcohol is a beautiful thing and more people should be peer pressured into drinking it.
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I don't think she's being pressured into drinking. I mean first, everyone except Faye wouldn't even comment, and it seems more like a lack of knowledge of what to order. Before I went to uni I didn't really drink and had a similar reaction first time in a bar with strangers!
And I don't think Faye is necessarily mean. You could look at her as being clueless about other people's social habits as Marigold is about all theirs!
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Look, tone of voice could entirely determine whether Faye was just being jokey or whether she was being mean. Since we can't actually hear it, we're just guessing.
True enough - but (in context) Dora can hear it, and that provides us with some additional information. (Of course, it's debatable whether Dora interpreted it correctly....)
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i really don't think it's that marigold doesn't want to drink, since she is mostly just embarrassed that she doesn't like (or know much about) beer. if she had no desire to drink alcohol, she would have said "i don't drink", and left it at that. and i doubt anyone would've said anything about it.
i mean, i don't much care for (or rather, i am not really knowledgeable about) beer. but i enjoy the hell out of a stiff screwdriver or fruity girl alcoholic beverage, when i indulge. i feel that she may be more similar to my situation than a non-drinker who is peer pressured into drinking.
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i really don't think it's that marigold doesn't want to drink, since she is mostly just embarrassed that she doesn't like (or know much about) beer. if she had no desire to drink alcohol, she would have said "i don't drink", and left it at that. and i doubt anyone would've said anything about it.
i mean, i don't much care for (or rather, i am not really knowledgeable about) beer. but i enjoy the hell out of a stiff screwdriver or fruity girl alcoholic beverage, when i indulge. i feel that she may be more similar to my situation than a non-drinker who is peer pressured into drinking.
You bring up some great points and I totally agree! If she didnt drink period she'd say so. I think its just her out of her element and grabbing at something she is familiar/comfortable/used to. And she just may not be too knowledgeable about beer/bourbon/mixed drinks. Hmmm bullet bourbon mixed with mountain dew....I may have to try that, and we shall call it, the Marigold! But honestly I prefer beer to mixed drinks. :mrgreen:
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Marigold's lack of spine disturbs me.
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She was assertive enough on her own territory. Maybe that's the only place she feels secure.
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Hmmm bullet bourbon mixed with mountain dew....I may have to try that, and we shall call it, the Marigold! But honestly I prefer beer to mixed drinks. :mrgreen:
Hey, that's not a bad idea. I have never mixed anything with Mountain Dew. I will have to rectify that.
I like beer and mixed drinks equally. Hell, I'll drink anything except Passion Pop.
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Me and some mates invented our own mixed drink. We mix Sprite with generic mid-strength beer. I coined the name "Speer" (tm) for it in a rare bout of drunk-genius.
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on the subject of alcohol concoctions, my friends and i make grape koolaid, substituting 1/2 of the water for vodka, and mix that with grape soda.
we call it 'that purple shit', lol.
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Me and some mates invented our own mixed drink. We mix Sprite with generic mid-strength beer. I coined the name "Speer" (tm) for it in a rare bout of drunk-genius.
Shandy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shandy). Otherwise known as "the Portagaff for pissweak people."
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Many years ago when I was around 10 or 12, there was a local Softdrink manufacture that made a cola drink called Rocola (or something like that), the flavour was quite unique. They went out of business a couple or three decades back, but after they went out of business, a mate of mine and I discovered that if you mixed three quarters of a bottle of Coke and a quarter of a bottle of lemonade, you got the same flavour.
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Me and some mates invented our own mixed drink. We mix Sprite with generic mid-strength beer. I coined the name "Speer" (tm) for it in a rare bout of drunk-genius.
Shandy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shandy). Otherwise known as "the Portagaff for pissweak people."
Pissweak? I can handle alcohol. Not the taste of beer though.
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So drink something else.
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Well that was easy.
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Yeah, i may have created it but i still wasnt a fan. If Vodka is good enough for the Russians its good enough for me! DAS VADANYA COMRADES!
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Nostrovia!!