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[Barmymoo]

Yeah that's pretty much how I felt.

[J]

a fair enough criticism, but i still rather enjoyed the episode. it had fun action, and i think did a great job of establishing the doctor as a more overtly morally ambiguous character than he's been in recent years.

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the thing to me is that rusty basically screams chekhov's gun, so it was probably important that they establish him early in the season.

[Barmymoo]

I want to know more about Missy or Minty or whatever her name is. There is no way that it's just straight-up Heaven where you go when you die. There's definitely something more going on there.

[Thrillho]

I still enjoyed the episode, and Capaldi is rapidly catching up with Eccelstone as my favourite Doctor. He is dark as shit and I'm not entirely sure if he's even necessarily the hero of his own TV series.

[BeoPuppy]

I want to know more about Missy or Minty or whatever her name is. There is no way that it's just straight-up Heaven where you go when you die. There's definitely something more going on there.

... what gives you that idea?

[Barmymoo]

Oh, I dunno, maybe that she's really creepy?

[Pilchard123]

Per Wikipedia,

Michelle Gomez was later cast as a character described as 'The Gatekeeper of the Nethersphere' and was originally announced to be featured in the series final, however, Gomez has already appeared as an uncredited role in the series' first two episodes as a character named Missy.

[Barmymoo]

Yes but we still don't know who she is. Is she an entirely new character? Is she the reincarnation of a previous character? Is she good? Is she bad? Is she outside this simplistic moral dichotomy?

[J]

And perhaps more importantly, is River going to show up at some point and have something to say about calling the doctor her 'boyfriend'

[BeoPuppy]

I'm sure she'll be insanely bad. How can she be anything else? How can anyone called Missy be anything else, ever?

[Stoon]

I've got to admit, I found yesterday's episode pretty dull. I feel like the Daleks have been overused now; yes, we get they're the Doctor's biggest enemy, and yes we get they're incredibly dangerous etc. But there wasn't a whole lot of plot last night, despite the attempts to shoe-horn big drama and philosophical pondering into the episode.

I agree 100%

[Schmee]

I'm just glad they didn't have River Song in this episode, or the Magic School Bus comparisons would be unavoidable.

[Blue Kitty]

Still gotta watch the new episodes

[Lines]

Those are awesome!

[ev4n]

Finally watched the first 2 episodes.  Meh.

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Spoiler for season 5

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I really want the ambiguity of the clockwork death scene to be something we revisit in the finale.  Kind of like the brilliant Doctor/Closed Eyes Amy conversation in Flesh and Stone that winds up being something totally different that what we thought it was.

That said, the silence intrigued me.  The death of the doctor in 1969 intrigued me.  Missy?  I really don't care.

[BeoPuppy]

[Thrillho]

So The Doctor is John Cena?

I liked this week's episode but really hated that it was called Robot of Sherwood. Spoiler warnings anybodehhhh?

Also I get the impression most people thought this episode sucked.

[Pilchard123]

I found Robin a bit annoying, but I think that was rather the point. Other than that I quite enjoyed it.

[Grognard]

not one of the better episodes.

considering a new DR., you'd think they'd pull awesomesauce

[J]

it was ok, but not great.

i'm loving how dickish the new doctor is though.

[Grognard]

I'm not a fan of him being a massive JERK, just to prove he is different from Eccleston, Tennant or Matt.

[Stoon]

Truly dreadful episode.

[The Seldom Killer]

Bit of a cack episode. Felt like a bit too much of a feeder for the whole Promised Land thing.

OTOH, is anyone else dearly loving the eyes in the opening theme?

[Thrillho]

Anybody want to elaborate a bit more on what they disliked?

[Grognard]

it was more like something you'd see on SyFy than on Dr. Who.
cheesy.  predictable.  wooden acting.  bad CGI.

[Kugai]

In other words, classic Doctor Whoish.

[Grognard]

hush, you Philistine.

[Barmymoo]

I liked it, I thought it was better than the first episodes. It was fun, it was silly, it took classic historical figures and turned them on their head - that's always my favourite approach (think Madame de Pompadour, Queen Victoria, Agatha Christie, Charles Dickens...) and what Dr Who is really about to me. The Doctor didn't save the world, there wasn't a ridiculous, shoe-horned drama, just a new angle on a story we all know.

[The Seldom Killer]

Well that was rather good. A nicely done things that go bump in the night episode.

[Thrillho]

There was a strange sensation of absence to this episode (and a lot of Moffat's I've noticed) where you don't really feel like the episode has started yet, and you're kinda waiting for the actual plot to kick in.

I am loving Capaldi's Doctor more as the weeks go by though. He is so rough around the edges, unlike cuddly, impish Tennant and Smith.

[BeoPuppy]

http://io9.com/theres-not-much-point-in-arguing-about-moffats-doctor-w-1634481730

[Blue Kitty]

Finally watched the first Cappaldi Who episode and my girlfriend and I enjoyed it. It didn't hurt to have the old gang there either

[Pilchard123]

I may be late to the party on this one, but a friend of mine has a theory about the identity of Missy (other than the Gatekeeper of the Nethersphere).

In Ep.1 she refers to someone - presumably the Doctor - as her 'boyfriend', suggesting a previous relationship.
There have been (apparently) hints that a Time Lord can change gender during their regeneration.
Missy could be a shortened form of 'Mistress', the feminine form of 'Master'.
You can see where this is going.

E: The Internet is telling me that I'm very late to the party. So late, in fact, that not only has the party ended, but people are waking up the next morning with hangovers and knowing that they did that thing with the balloons that was so funny last night but that they also have to look these people in the eye and they'll know exactly what went on.

[Barmymoo]

I've heard that theory and I'm just a bit dubious. I very much hope that she is a totally new character, and also that we get a few more hints soon (I suspect we won't know for sure til the end of the season, if then).

[Grognard]

I think it was a good episode: a nice tidbit reminding us that Clara is the 'impossible girl' who touches all of the Doctor's timeline.

[Pilchard123]

I couldn't see anything but the opening scene of Monsters, Inc. when the dream was being explained.

[Stoon]

I think it was a good episode: a nice tidbit reminding us that Clara is the 'impossible girl' who touches all of the Doctor's timeline.

I'd quibble with that.  After all, she was the impossible girl who touched all of The Doctor's timeline BEFORE his timeline was reset to give him a new regeneration cycle.  She's not part of his timeline any more.

[Stoon]

I'm feeling dissatisfied with the season so far.  Last night's episode was once again disappointing.  It's like Steven Moffat isn't even trying any more.  The plot was entirely predictable.  Who could coerce The Doctor to rob a bank?  Nobody, except maybe The Doctor.   Also, I'm finding Peter Caraldi to be a not  very good Doctor.  He's really wooden, not charismatic at all.  I'd say he's the second worst Doctor to date.

[Pilchard123]

I though the

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disassembler/teleport key thing

was a bit cheap. I'll also agree with you that the Architect thing was rather predictable as well.

[Grognard]

sometimes predictability can be enjoyable.
not so much with the bank job.
and the escape key?

:eyeroll:

[Barmymoo]

I really enjoyed last night's episode; it made perfect sense to me that the purpose of the heist would be to rescue people (the two Teller creatures and the two assistants) and it had some great lines.

[J]

i rather liked it. the bank-heist was a neat idea, with a pretty good execution.

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the architect being the doctor was a bit obvious (especially once it turned out that the suicide injections were actually teleporters), but handled well enough. the bit about a regretful older version of the bank owner hiring them to rob her own bank in the past was less obvious, and much more interesting.

the bit about the doctor realizing that the architect was him based on the fact that he hated his own guts was kind of interesting as well. at first it kind of bugged me, as i felt like it was trying to retread the idea of the doctor's self-loathing & survivors guild, which should be largely resolved since day of the doctor. but thinking back on it now, i sort of see it more as just basic self-awareness on his part; he's not seeing himself as a mass-murdering monster anymore, just realizing/admitting that he's kind of a dick this time around.

[BeoPuppy]

http://flashbak.com/meeting-dr-whos-daleks-in-the-1960s-19-photos-20072/

[Barmymoo]

I quite enjoyed this week's episode. The monster was a bit lame and clearly just a mechanism for the character development to occur (and some of the character "development" was decidedly shaky) but it had some good lines and the ?cameo appearance from the interested child is promising.

[The Seldom Killer]

Chris Addison in to bat for the other side. I doubt I'm the only one for a Tucker vs Reeder outtake to crop up somewhere.

[Thrillho]

I watched the last two episodes back to back because I was busy last weekend.

Season 8:

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I very much enjoyed the bank robbery episode, but they couldn't have telegraphed that the Doctor was the architect better if they tried. Any time he is wondering how someone can be smart enough to outsmart him, it inevitably turns out to be him. I liked the two new characters (foxy black girl, too) and would happily see them again.

This week's episode was enjoyably daft. I much enjoyed the outright stupidity of it, which seemed to be by design.

I cannot stress enough how much I LOVE Capaldi's Doctor. The episode kind of sucked, but I find him mesmerising because for the longest time, we've had handsome and/or happy and/or nice Doctors, and back in the early days from what I've read he was apparently pretty rude to most people, including other incarnations of himself. Ecclestone was dark, but he was damaged and he let people in and showed joy. Tennant was a know-it-all goon with dark moments and Smith was a kneecap in a bow tie. Capaldi though? It's the first time since I've been a regular watcher that I've felt like the Doctor genuinely does not give a single fuck. The man is well over a thousand years old and with this many regenerations, why wouldn't one of them be kind of a dick?

Netflix UK boasted that they added Doctor Who season seven. This is bollocks. They added the first five episodes of it.

Watched the premier tonight. The actress who plays Clara appeared as seemingly one of her descendants in something that will presumably be explained later, and was... honestly, super hot in it, I've always found the actress attractive but in that outfit and playing the character that way (hyper flirty, super intelligent) even more so. I suspect this was by design. It was also a pretty good episode, quite a blockbuster, and made some interesting choices - the Daleks forgetting who the Doctor is - but it also had some standout shitty moments. For one, when the Dalek is slowly turning on and is taking forever to get 'exterminate' out and Rory thinks it's saying 'egg.' Seriously Rory, no wonder you've died like four hundred times and Amy dumped you. And that's another thing. SYNTHETIC DRAMA! I was quite on board with the idea that those two had broken up to add a new dynamic to the companionship and see where it went, but instead it was mentioned once, a dramatic scene occurred, and then that was it. THAT. WAS IT. What a waste of a plot device, especially given that it's based on Amy's inability to conceive, which is a pretty heavy plot point to just jack off all over the season premiere.

[hedgie]

Wouldn't a lot of that be on the BBC iPlayer?

[J]

i tend to agree with you re. amy & rory's breakup drama. i really felt that the idea that they broke up because amy couldn't conceive children was somewhat handicapped by the fact that

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they already have a fucking kid! she is a significant character in the fucking show! the fact that she is their daughter was a significant fucking plot point!

[Thrillho]

Wouldn't a lot of that be on the BBC iPlayer?

No. iPlayer only shows the most recent episode, or if you're really lucky, the most recent series, and then it's deleted until the next time it's shown on TV.

[Barmymoo]

Only the current series is ever on iPlayer, and sometimes only the most recent episode (in this case, though, all the episodes of this series of Dr Who is available for the entire run).