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So, what's on the cards for this year?

Wil returns as a tattooed biker
Raven returns on a Timeosaurus
Angus and Faye get engaged, marry and divorce by next Christmas
Dale nails Marigold by April
Tai and Dora - QC's resident married lesbian couple by September
Pintsize finds religion and starts his own cult
Winslow gets an upgrade to an iPad
The band becomes big in Boston
Yelling Bird takes a sensitivity course
Waffleburgers with Spathe Ham
Butts!!!!
Purple Monkey Dishwasher
Whatever it is, it'll be unexpected

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Author Topic: WCDT: 2613-2617 (Jan 6 - 10 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread  (Read 51759 times)

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Once more unto the breach dear friends, ONCE MORE!!!!
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Dale doesn't look like he could hold up a hammer let alone use it to...oh wait, wrong "nail"  :-o
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I find Marten's situation to be kinda depressing. On one side is Faye, a woman he was crushing for the longest time, and on the other side is a Dora, a woman he went out with before a break up. Both of them have moved on and seem to be achieving some form of happiness while Marten is still putzing along. I mean, I haven't seen Marten smile for a very long time now in comic, at least, a smile that wasn't cynical or derisive in nature. Maybe things feel a little on the bleak side to me due to the fact that as the cast of characters grow, things shift away from Marten (so a lot of time hasn't really passed in universe...idk, I've been reading this comic since strip 1 so things kinda blur together), who I still consider to be the main character.
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We need to start considering on having a "projection" merit badge for forum posters. ;)
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I find Marten's situation to be kinda depressing.

Getting the band in gear will be good for him.

His mom pointed out that it's really not a bad life he's got.
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I think I made fairly accurate description of his current situation. If you think that I was incorrect, then I would appreciate you actually going into why what I said is wrong instead of making a one liner that has you making assumptions about who I am as a person.

I agree about the band thing. I am excited to see where this is going to go, especially since when the concept was originally introduced, I thought it would be one of those one off things that dies. I thought it was really neat when it was brought back and given more importance, or rather, when it started to take more importance in Marten's life.
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We need to start considering on having a "projection" merit badge for forum posters. ;)


I think every one of us would immediately earn it.
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We need to start considering on having a "projection" merit badge for forum posters. ;)


I think every one of us would immediately earn it.

It would be easier to count those who hadn't earned it yet...and several times over at that  :-o
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Xfraze - we do all project ourselves onto Jeph's characters. Some people take it to extremes, though.

Welcome to the boards! Make sure you read the rules of the forums and make sure to introduce yourself over in the Introduction subforum!
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Is interpretation projection?

Edit: That newspost :(
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Yeah.  :-\

Well, good luck to both of them for the future.
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Also I have no idea how to have a random hookup either.
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Me neither. But I don't know how to meet a girl the traditional way either, so, well.
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Getting set up isn't so much a cheat code, but it is a level select that allows you to skip to the final boss fight. (You still have to win that one on your own)
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I've had a few random hookups. 


30 years or so ago. 





Youth is wasted on the young...  :-P


Re: Newspost

Well, crap. 
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I once made out with a girl I'd literally just met at a party. Does that count?
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Random makeouts =/= random hoookups, though the one can lead to the other! 
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Does "hookup" mean sex? I thought it could refer to pretty much anything.
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umm... I always thought it did.  Urban Dictionary says it's a little ambiguous.  Entry 5 is hysterical, and 7 is probably closest to the truth. 
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The Tai With Eyes As Big As Saucers.

Sven did offer to fix Marten up with random no-strings-attached partners.
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Guy A:"Did you hook up with the guys last night?"
Guy B:"Yeah. Guy C hooked us up."
Guy A: "Was Girl 1 there? Y'all should hook up."
Guy B: "She hooked up with me after. We, like, hooked up."
Guy A: "So...did you hook up?"
Guy B: "No."


That has to be one of the funniest things I've ever read.
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I think that this is TOTALLY a setup for when Marten's band plays their big gig.

He'll hit a final power chord at the end of the last song causing a thunderous crescendo and women from all over will throw themselves at him and he'll go "YEAH!!!!!!!!"

And Hanners will go "STOP THAT!"

Actually, more than likely since Hanners seems to be the female Neil Peart of the QC universe she'll have so many male (and female?) admirers she might be creeped out totally making Marten look like "Hanners backup band musician".


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Marten is her backup band musician.
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Poor Jeph.  I knew something was up when he randomly made filler comics, and I was worried it'd be about his relationship.



RE: Random hookups - does anybody ever really "need" them? 
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I mean...define "need"?

Also, I don't doubt that you guessed it, but...how? Were there any hints that we could've seen? Also this is apparently a few months in the making. Also, poll option #3 is a little, well...ill-timed, what with the news.
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Sad to see the newspost. :(

Hope everything goes well for Jeph and Cristi.
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How do you define "need"?  Well, I think in this case they are saying it would do him some good by providing him with a meaningful experience that would make little lightbulbs go off in his head, thus brightening the future.  ...it might also release some built up sexual tension, and/or boost his confidence.  That sort of "need".

Hooking up, when done wrong, can be pretty damaging to a person (see: Sven and Faye), and Marten has never struck me as the type of person to want to hook up since he tends to take relationships so seriously (he doesn't seem really fond of the idea based on this strip alone).  Of course, I don't know him better than the author (Jeph) does, so I can't really make that call.


I don't think there were any hints to suggest it was his relationship.  I mean, maybe the fact that he urged readers he was OK and not to worry about it, suggested it was something quite personal (like a relationship), but also one of those things people tend to like to keep between them and the other party, and not broadcast for the world to see.  But I honestly, that was just a guess...I had no real way of knowing.
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Tai has the fact she is a woman running for her. Trying that line randomly in the street will only get you maced.

Sad to hear about Jeph.  Voilŕ. That's all. No off-colour joke.
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make little lightbulbs go off in his head, thus brightening the future

This definitely goes onto my top 5 list of mixed metaphors.

Best wishes to Jeph and Cristi :(
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Man, having the sympathy feels for someone I can't actually comfort in any way is uncomfortable. Good for Jeph and Christi for - seemingly - parting ways in relative peace, though. All the best for both of 'em.

@comic:
Ooooh, I hope one of the libary's interns overhears the conversation and chimes in with some odd, socially misplaced comment. That would be the strawbrerry to this morning's whipped cream delight.  :-D
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The poll: Isn't discussing sex and Hannelore off limits?

Hookup: I actually misread urban dictionary entry 4.1 as "with intention of having sexual frustrations with them".
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I was wondering the same thing.
It seems shipping in a poll is allowed. Who knew? °O
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I was wondering the same thing.
It seems shipping in a poll is allowed. Who knew? °O

Polls are, of course, subject to the rules.  There was even a time when WCDT polls were disabled because of the way they went.

The items remaining in the poll are predictions based on canon...
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On one side is Faye, a woman he was crushing for the longest time, and on the other side is a Dora, a woman he went out with before a break up. Both of them have moved on and seem to be achieving some form of happiness

The way I see it, Marten has been rejected by both of them because they (i.e. Dora and Faye) had serious emotional issues preventing them from having/continuing a relationship with Marten. It strikes me as pretty crass for either of them to be teasing him because he isn't with anyone now. They've moved on? Yes, but having trampled all over Marten in the process.

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He'll hit a final power chord at the end of the last song causing a thunderous crescendo and women from all over will throw themselves at him

Dream on. Doesn't happen. Don't ask me how I know that.
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Re anahata's first point: Although I probably wouldn't call it "trampling over Marten", you definitely have a really good point. I know Dora and Faye like being sassy, but this is not good friend behaviour and I think we can see that it really hurt Marten.

Re newspost: :-(
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Sad to hear about Jeph and Cristi parting ways after so long together, but if they are maintaining friendship between them, then all the best to them both in their endeavours.
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As I've written elsewhere,  Jeph has made it public in the newspost, so there is nothing wrong in mentioning it and expressing best wishes for them both.

However, I would remind people that he said:
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thanks for your understanding in this matter, and for giving us some privacy as we sort everything out.
Accordingly, I would ask for there to be no speculation here about the matter.
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Tai has the fact she is a woman running for her. Trying that line randomly in the street will only get you maced.

A straight man trying that possibly gets maced, but more likely gets forcibly told to p*** off.  A straight woman who tries that gets slut-shamed. 

I don't think Tai quite realizes how fortunate a position she's in if it works for her (though presumably only at times and in places where most of the women around her are bi or gay, not when done randomly in the street.)
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Poor Marten. The teasing really stings, especially when coming from his ex (Dora) and friend/roommate/former love interest (Faye) simultaneously. Perhaps they are not inherently cruel, but are trying to crack his shell and make him move on.

We can only hope this is is leading to significant developments in 2014. In many ways, I like the slow progress in the QC universe, and the emphasis on social interactions and relationships, but sometimes this leads to stagnation.

I wish Marten from now on would spend less time at CoD, and concentrate on other activities. The band thread looks promising, but he also needs to find a romantic relationship. The CoD thread should by all means continue, but with less interaction from Marten.

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Why does he need to find a romantic relationship?
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Sad to hear about Cristi and Jeph. :(

As to the comic: I'm getting this feeling about major plot developments ahead.
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Because of blue balls?  :-D
Romantic, she said.
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"Need" or "would do you good" is a very diffuse notion.  Strictly speaking, nobody really needs "random hook-ups" (and yes one wonders which definition does Tai use; I too liked the "I don't even know any more" definition, it really gets used to mean anything).  In the strip itself Marten lets us know he's not inclined to that sort of random thing, and he does seem like the sort who prefers to at least get to know the other person a little first.

Tai has the fact she is a woman running for her. Trying that line randomly in the street will only get you maced.

A straight man trying that possibly gets maced, but more likely gets forcibly told to p*** off.  A straight woman who tries that gets slut-shamed. 

I don't think Tai quite realizes how fortunate a position she's in if it works for her (though presumably only at times and in places where most of the women around her are bi or gay, not when done randomly in the street.)
  True.  I believe it is implicit that Tai means that for appropriate social situations, not really randomly.  But even in a hookup-opportunity environment (club, party, etc.) a straight guy doing that line cold has a better than even chance at being labeled a creep, unless he's the hottest/coolest dude in the room.   

Still, she may herself just be doing a mild tease there, playing off of his interpretation of what the casual-hookup approach looks like to him.     
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all the best to Jeph and Christie.

Once more unto the breach dear friends, ONCE MORE!!!!

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best wishes to Jeph and Cristi, i hope that they're both coping okay.

it still seems that no-one is actually listening (in-comic) to Marten.
he said explicitly, "even if I wanted to" - basically making it clear that he doesn't want a random hookup, or to be anything other than single right now.
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"Even if I wanted to" refers to random hookups, but you cannot infer that he is not interested in a not-so-random hookup. At least I hope so.

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Tai is clearly not the person to go to for hookup advice. Not for Marten anyway.

Re: the newspost; sorry to hear about Jeph's marriage. Marriages are difficult to maintain, that's for sure.

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