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Re: Hacked/leaked nude photos discussion
« Reply #50 on: 04 Sep 2014, 15:15 »

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Re: Hacked/leaked nude photos discussion
« Reply #51 on: 04 Sep 2014, 15:32 »

I remember when I had my bag and laptop stolen, I left it unattended in a bar, yet no one blamed me for the theft. Everyone were really nice and understanding towards me, saying stuff like "I can't believe anyone would do something like that, what an absolute butthole". No one blamed me for the theft even though I had left my stuff unattended in a public space, surrounded by strangers. Why can't people be as sympathetic when it comes to other people's bodies?
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Re: Hacked/leaked nude photos discussion
« Reply #52 on: 04 Sep 2014, 16:43 »

Yet your bag and laptop are objects fit for a specific purpose, while the photos are sensitive information that was created with the purpose of being sent to somebody. Pointing out that this could have been avoided by not creating the information in the first place is obviously not the same as saying that if your laptop gets stolen it's your fault for owning one in the first place.
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Re: Hacked/leaked nude photos discussion
« Reply #53 on: 04 Sep 2014, 17:04 »

I was thinking it would have been easy for someone to tell me it was my fault that my laptop was stolen because I left it unattended, not because I owned it in the first place. People tend to side with the victim of theft if it's an object that was stolen, but if their bodies have been taken advantage of (hacked nudes in this case, or rape), someone always criticises the victim for not having taken this or this precaution.

So no one should have nude photos of themselves or their loved ones? Or is it just celebrities, because they're a more obvious target for hackers than Jane or John Doe? The women hurt by this are mostly actresses or people with jobs that require them to be away from their loved ones for long periods of time, should they have to think about the risk of someone maybe hacking them when they want to snap a photo of themselves for their partners?

I'm in a long distance relationship, and I have sent nudes of myself to my boyfriend (and we've taken some together for viewing when we're apart). They're nice to have when you're missing the person you love, and I'm sure the celebs thought the same thing about their loved ones and their photos. Some of those photos were on my stolen laptop. I managed to lock it (thanks, Apple!), but who knows if whoever stole it found them. Is it my fault if those photos end up online? Or is it okay because I'm no famous, so I shouldn't have to worry about those things anyway?

Edit: Also, yes the photos were created with the purpose of being sent to somebody. Not with the purpose of being sent to everybody, but somebody very specific. Those women did not consent to having them shown to everybody with internet access.
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Re: Hacked/leaked nude photos discussion
« Reply #54 on: 05 Sep 2014, 05:28 »

i've said it before and i'll say it again: people who use facebook, cloud storage, etc. need to stop pretending they give a fuck about their privy.

This is a completely ridiculous statement. Giving a fuck about something doesn't necessitate having a full understanding about how something else functions and it's vulnerabilities in relation to the original thing. Describing it as pretending is reductive and ultimately damaging. Being cognisant on the germaine issue is great but it doesn't afford you the right to belittle the interests of others.
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Re: Hacked/leaked nude photos discussion
« Reply #55 on: 05 Sep 2014, 07:14 »

Yet your bag and laptop are objects fit for a specific purpose, while the photos are sensitive information that was created with the purpose of being sent to somebody. Pointing out that this could have been avoided by not creating the information in the first place is obviously not the same as saying that if your laptop gets stolen it's your fault for owning one in the first place.
It is exactly the same thing. In both cases something was stolen. In both cases the item in question would not have been stolen if the item had not been owned it the first place.  It is a equally ridiculous observation in both cases. Pointing it out serves no purpose beyond victim blaming.
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Re: Hacked/leaked nude photos discussion
« Reply #56 on: 05 Sep 2014, 07:59 »

Nothing is secure anywhere.

Quoted for truth.

Security is a deterrent, not prevention.
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Re: Hacked/leaked nude photos discussion
« Reply #57 on: 05 Sep 2014, 08:46 »

People who live and own things should stop pretending they give a duck about safety :x
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Re: Hacked/leaked nude photos discussion
« Reply #58 on: 05 Sep 2014, 10:53 »

People in glass houses should masturbate in the basement?
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Re: Hacked/leaked nude photos discussion
« Reply #59 on: 05 Sep 2014, 16:01 »

He who lives in a glass house shall cast the first stone.
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Re: Hacked/leaked nude photos discussion
« Reply #60 on: 05 Sep 2014, 16:02 »

He who lives in the glass house better be a confident motherfucker.
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Re: Hacked/leaked nude photos discussion
« Reply #61 on: 05 Sep 2014, 17:11 »

He who lives in the glass house is going to be slowly baked alive.
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Re: Hacked/leaked nude photos discussion
« Reply #62 on: 05 Sep 2014, 18:13 »

He who lives in a glass shouldn't throw lions.
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Re: Hacked/leaked nude photos discussion
« Reply #63 on: 05 Sep 2014, 19:07 »

He who lives in a glass needs a refill, now where's that bartender?
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Re: Hacked/leaked nude photos discussion
« Reply #64 on: 05 Sep 2014, 19:42 »

He who lives in a bar, has a problem.
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Re: Hacked/leaked nude photos discussion
« Reply #65 on: 05 Sep 2014, 23:36 »

He who lives in a bar, dispenses solutions.
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Re: Hacked/leaked nude photos discussion
« Reply #66 on: 06 Sep 2014, 08:46 »

And that solution is the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.
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Re: Hacked/leaked nude photos discussion
« Reply #68 on: 06 Sep 2014, 09:10 »

No, not dead, just off on a tangent.
Although the possibility of an art gallery featuring some of the nudes just further illustrates my point that a lot of the affected celebrities are going to come out of this with nary a mark against them.
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Re: Hacked/leaked nude photos discussion
« Reply #69 on: 06 Sep 2014, 09:19 »

Which really isn't the point, though.
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Re: Hacked/leaked nude photos discussion
« Reply #70 on: 06 Sep 2014, 09:53 »

I feel like art gallery boy is putting himself in a position to get a phone call from some lawyers.
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Re: Hacked/leaked nude photos discussion
« Reply #71 on: 06 Sep 2014, 09:58 »

Can the lawyers actually do anything, though?
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Re: Hacked/leaked nude photos discussion
« Reply #72 on: 06 Sep 2014, 10:02 »

Still doesn't make this XVALA any less of an ass though.
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Re: Hacked/leaked nude photos discussion
« Reply #73 on: 06 Sep 2014, 10:04 »

Can the lawyers actually do anything, though?

Probably. It's not like these images are protected under fair use.
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Re: Hacked/leaked nude photos discussion
« Reply #74 on: 06 Sep 2014, 16:11 »

This guy's idea of showing the pics off in a gallery would be akin to someone having their Corvette stolen, then across the country someone takes the fender, wheels and overhead camshaft cover and sells them in his auto supply store.



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