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I have a very serious question for metalheads

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Cerulaetas:

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1) true fucking black metallers. True fucking black metallers are 30 or maybe even 40 somethings who live mainly in Norway. They've been around probably since the beginning of the whole scene, and have been immersed in the whole thing so long they don't even have to try to be grim and krieg. It just comes naturally to them.
2) tr00 fucking black metallers. The fucking means a different things. These are teenagers who mainly live in the United States and desperately want to be 1. They have to try too fucking hard though. Any criticism of black metallers will almost certainly refer to this group, unless you're a huge fan of Norwegian stave churches.
3) people who like black metal. Don't really see what the fuss is about.
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soap:
has it been time for one of the 'big' uk rock/metal magazines to run the standard extra long article about the early 90s norweign black metal scene / murder / church burning yet ?

beyond in the nightside eclipse i never could really get into black metal, probably because they all took themselves waaaay to seriously and it just seemed a bit daft so i never bothered investigating much further than emperor.

although it always strikes me as a bit of a shame that a lot of people seem to think cradle of filth are the be all and end all of black metal, from what i've heard they aren't even a particularly good example of the genre, more like they're dani filth's ego trip, with some rude tshirts and a revolving door policy for pantomine goons who make up the rest of the band.
or thats how it seems to me at least, the only times i ever see anything written about them its about a sweary tshirt or yet another line-up change.
of course i could be entirely wrong but they do seem to be quite a poor band.

Kai:
Cerulaetes, I desperately want to use that as an avatar.

KharBevNor:
Cradle of Filth haven't really been true black metal since the mid nineties when they sold out for the first time by concentrating completely on fantasy horror lyrics rather than paganism/nationalism/anti-christianity after a tabloid scandal in which an extremely devoted fan of theirs desecrated a number of churches. They were always a bit black/death hybrid anyway, and from the first they've constantly evolved into a broader mix of metal styles that now, I have to say, owes far more to commercial considerations than any artistic convictions. The real reason that black metal fans tend to denounce all Cradle of Filth, however, is that they have never been entirely serious. I still like a lot of Cradle before the more dire recent albums simply because they're so much fun. Tr00 Black Metallers, even if they can't pin it down exactly, hate the percieved idea that a band MAY NOT BE TAKING THINGS SERIOUSLY. It's one of the reasons Carpathian Forest don't get nratly as much respect as they deserve whilst Darkthrone, though they are admittedly quite good, get somewhat overhyped.

And some people do just hate Dani's voice, though my favourite comment on the whole thing is contained in a cartoon printed in the back of an early issue of Zero Tolerance, the site for which annoyingly down.

First Frame caption is "Cradle of Filth are always the subject of drastically differing critical viewpoints. There are those who like them..." and then in the first frame a smiling metalhead giving a thumbs up and saying "Dani is the very essence of Masculinity!" Next frame, "There are those who don't..." and a grim black metaller frowning and saying "The only TRUE black metal band was formed before Time by the Aryan demon-father of Satan in the deepest caverns of Hell, recorded onto the genitalia of mutilated christian virgins and can only be heard by the corpses of long-dead pagan demigods!" and in the final frame the caption "...and those who really, really don't", with a picture of a distressed looking priest screaming "SATAN IS IN MY EARS".

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