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Bastardous Bassist:

--- Quote from: KimJongSick ---Second. Example: Steve Vai. Great guitarist, but I fucking HATE his music and I just want to damage his head every time I hear a song like his. They seriously all sound the same, it's always, "Oh, look, here's an impressive tapping solo I'm playing, using a fucking obscure scale or mode! LOL!"
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But what about his stuff with Zappa?  Also, I think a lot of his stuff is actually pretty awesome, though it is rather similar.  I think it sounds cool and has plenty of emotion (nobody can tell me that "Tender Surrender" is just him trying to show of his chops).

Patrick:
Yeah, I've just heard the 2-disc "Greatest Hits" or whatever, and I couldn't get past the first disc. I always just kinda figured the song itself should come before the solo, y'know?

Bastardous Bassist:
Well, the way I see it is that a well-constructed solo constitutes a song in itself.  I mean, we don't look at concerti and say, "Oh man, I wish there were more of an orchestral introduction of the theme before the soloist came in."  I mean, maybe being from a different background (classical) has allowed me not to be trained to expect certain things from songs.

Misereatur:
Plus, like I mentioned in the Forced Listening Thread, guitar soloists are very masterbatury.
As in "YO! I'M PLAYING FAST! I AM TEH AWSOM!!1!". But Steve Vai actually manage to pull off the whole thing without sounding like he's exaggerating the size of his dong.

SpacemanSpiff:

--- Quote from: KimJongSick ---Hawt, so I'm not the only one on earth who has heard of BAP! Thanks, I'll definitely check out Niedecken's other work now that I have a recommendation.
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Most of my family is from Cologne, so I can't not have heard of them. ;)
Hammering out more random recommendations: I prefer the older BAP stuff, if you're interested, try the following albums: Für Usszeschnigge, Affjetaut, Von drinne noh drusse.

Also, because I'm totally on topic:
The D4 - Exit to the City
That solo is so damn cliché it's fun again.

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