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Rizzo:
That was pretty condescending dude...
Alright sorry, I'll stop throwing gasoline on the fire. I'm currently listening to Umlaut, Discharge and Bones Brigade. Fuck, I never knew crust was actually good.
trolley:
Jedit,I actually agree with much of what you've said with regards to not understanding the draw of metal. It just sounds like awful noise to me.
But seriously dude, you're being a dick. Acting superior on the internet makes you a dick.
Please don't be a dick.
Borondir:
Two very simple things I tell about black metal and death metal and the difference is overrall pitch emphasis and how the music flows. Death metal is like you said, very bass heavy, even the vocals are generally fairly low pitched. Black metal on the other hand has higher pitched guitars and often hardly any discernable bass, and of course the vocals tend towards shrieking. As far as flow, death metal guitars use a lot of palm muting, so its all a bit more jagged and rhythmic, while black metal is almost exclusively tremolo picking, which means more sustained flowing guitar riffs.
Of course there is ideology as well, but I think at this point ideology is largely irrelevant to discussion's of metal, as all of the subgenres have a wide range of ideology.
On your question of why people listen to Opeth, I'd say the wide range of means of musical expression by artists who are obviously fine musicians. I'm a music major who sings in a fairly elite college choir, and I appreciate musicianship in vastly different forms. I do think Opeth is a bit overrated, like Khar pointed out, there are other good bands doing at least somewhat similar things.
P.S. No offense Khar, while Burzum is a classic of the bm scene, I'm not sure its the best way to introduce someone to the differences between subgenres.
Jedit:
--- Quote from: Borondir ---Two very simple things I tell about black metal and death metal and the difference is overrall pitch emphasis and how the music flows. Death metal is like you said, very bass heavy, even the vocals are generally fairly low pitched. Black metal on the other hand has higher pitched guitars and often hardly any discernable bass, and of course the vocals tend towards shrieking.
--- End quote ---
Which is helpful, as previously I'd been conflating black metal and death metal when in fact most if not all of what I'd been hearing was death metal and black metal was entirely separate.
--- Quote ---Of course there is ideology as well, but I think at this point ideology is largely irrelevant to discussion's of metal, as all of the subgenres have a wide range of ideology.
--- End quote ---
Using ideology to determine musical genre has led to Creed being called the biggest and best band in their genre. Worse yet, this is broadly accurate. So let's paraphrase Bill Hicks's comments on how most great rock musicians aren't the kind of people you take home for tea and leave the dross to face the full field of competition:
"Borondir, that man scares me, he's got eight-inch spikes on his armbands and a codpiece made from his dead mother's skull!"
"SHUT UP, JEDIT, AND LISTEN TO HIM PLAY!!!"
--- Quote ---On your question of why people listen to Opeth, I'd say the wide range of means of musical expression by artists who are obviously fine musicians.
--- End quote ---
I didn't really want or need that question answering. It's a matter of taste, plain and simple. Personally I think they're the auditory equivalent of a mugging; others will of course disagree (or they like being mugged), as is their right.
BeoPuppy:
Nah, you're right there, Opeth are bad.
And I don't get the difference either.
However, I would like to question the need for labelling anyway. Just like bands. It's much easier.
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