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Drum & Bass (In response to a post in the Dance thread)
« on: 01 May 2006, 11:26 »
Favorites?  I'm generally into the more atmospheric/Melodic stuff and the liquid funk rollers.  I enjoy:

ASC
Blame
Seba
Fauna Flash
Polar
Alaska
Photek
Klute

to name a few.
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Drum & Bass (In response to a post in the Dance thread)
« Reply #1 on: 01 May 2006, 11:42 »
pendulum :P
yeah its cheesy and melodic, but i like it. and klute are pretty good as well.
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« Reply #2 on: 01 May 2006, 11:50 »
All the DnB type buisness Planet Mu are putting out at the moment is damn good. Along with pretty much everything else they are releasing to be honest. The new Breakage record has my favourite break since Hell Hath No Fury by Klute. Which wasn't actually all that long ago, but that's not the point. I want mutilated Amens, not some bullshit rave nonsense (Looking at you here Pendulum, though it pretty much applies to the whole DnB scene at the moment).

Listen to Remarc - R.I.P. and Renegade Snares - Terrorist for some original Jungle buisness. And then listen to some Dubstep, because you've already missed Jungle and Dubstep is blowing up right now. I was too young for the best years of Jungle unfortunately, but it's still awesome.
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« Reply #3 on: 01 May 2006, 12:09 »
Mutilated Amens were BS Rave nonsense back in the late 90's early 00's.  It's why most of the DnB community moved away from it...there's only so much you can do with a single breakbeat before the sound becomes tired.

In terms of rhythmic beat cutting, I'm much more interested in early photek (rings around saturn ftw) and Paradox, who both managed to do extraordinary things without resorting to the amen crutch.
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« Reply #4 on: 01 May 2006, 12:10 »
Then you've got the ironic junglists. Shitmat anyone?

I envy artists who can make entire albums using only the amen for the drums.

EDIT: AND STILL MAKE IT INTERESTING.
 
I noticed the other day that the Futurama theme uses the amen brother loop, albeit unadulterated. I always feel somewhat soiled when I hear it in something commercial, especially when it hasn't been altered in any way, just ripped straight from the song. Hence I fucking hate Idiot Pilot. Listen to "Morae" and wince at the distasteful use of an awesome set of building blocks.

^It's not a crutch. Unless you mean you can use your consequently enlarged penis as a third leg.

DOUBLE EDIT: Will someone listen to "Little Silver Drops" and see what you think? A drum and bass thread is perhaps the best place to advertise.

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« Reply #5 on: 01 May 2006, 14:57 »
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In terms of rhythmic beat cutting, I'm much more interested in early photek (rings around saturn ftw) and Paradox, who both managed to do extraordinary things without resorting to the amen crutch.


Using the Amen is only a "crutch" if you're rubbish. However, my point is pretty much the same as yours, I like it when producers can rearrange a break into amazing beats, rather than just clicking boxes on a sequencer. That being said, seeing how many original, interesting beats can be created from the same original sample is part of what I like so much. Planet Mu put out a Remarc compilation a while back called Sound Murderer, and it's a perfect example of how many great ways you can edit an Amen.

My main gripe is that most Drum n Bass at the moment is doing precisly nothing exciting or original with the breaks, or not using any breaks at all!
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« Reply #6 on: 01 May 2006, 15:45 »
Pretty much the only drum and bass-ish stuff I like is Curse of the Golden Vampire. Anyone know anything else up to that level of heavy insanity?
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« Reply #7 on: 01 May 2006, 16:37 »
By Alec Empire?
I haven't heard it, but assuming it's similar to his Bass Terror EP, there should be some stuff that would take your fancy about.
Tech Itch - Deus Excess and Vex'd - Lion VIP spring to mind, along with some releases on Renegade Hardware, Barcode and labels like that. Some Breakcore, but not the silly stuff like Shitmat. Epsilon has a fucking unsocial piece of work called Blood that would probobly hit the spot.
I'll put up some YSI links tomorrow if you want, but I'll have to record them off my records and then encode them to MP3 and that sort of thing. I can't be assed right now.
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« Reply #8 on: 01 May 2006, 17:09 »
Many artists go up and sometimes beyond that level, but never bother to make a whole album/career of it, so it's not really worth mentioning.

You can do it yourself though.

Take any song you wish to alter.

Timestretch it to half the lengh so as to attain more speed, same pitch.

Whack a low-bit-rate filter and overdrive on it, yank the distortion level up full.

For hipster brownie points, stick a classic funk drum loop over the whole thing (preferably speeded and pitched up, distorted to unrecognisable levels.

Put some loud, violent vocals on it.

I have spent five minutes doing just this as an example. I used Maximo park's "The Night I Lost My Head". I've posted it on my Myspace because I don't know where else I can host it.

http://www.myspace.com/iheartickis

It's probably the best song ever.
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« Reply #9 on: 01 May 2006, 17:14 »
Thanks for the recs. Don't bother with YSI, I should be able to get it off of DC, I know some hubs that will most likely carry it.
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« Reply #10 on: 01 May 2006, 17:18 »
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« Reply #11 on: 01 May 2006, 17:45 »
lol, just listened to that maximo park thing. Noice. Where do you get such classic drum loops and breaks from? I may have to have a play around with some. I'm already into making stupid electronic music and listing CotGV as an influence so I probably should.
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« Reply #12 on: 01 May 2006, 17:48 »
I assume the Maximo Park trak was "the Night I Lost Khar"?  I can't seem to get it to play...
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« Reply #13 on: 01 May 2006, 17:52 »
The Night I lost Khar = Tune.
I did like Little Silver Drops, but it needed some BASSLINE. The break edits were pretty sweet, but that acid warble buisness simply doesn't cut it with me. I want sub-bass. So, uh. It was more of an IDM sort of vibe for me, despite the BPM and break edits and shit. More of a home listen than a shape-thrower. In conclusion, good.

In other news,
MIDRANGE DISTORTED BASS NONSENSE, MAN. FUCK THAT NOISE.
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« Reply #14 on: 01 May 2006, 19:14 »
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Where do you get such classic drum loops and breaks from?


You find a list of breaks that people use, find out what song they originally came from and chop the break/individual hits out in an audio editor. Then you can sequence them however you see fit.

In fact, if you give me your email address I can send you a nice little folder with plenty of them to get your claws into.

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That was really hurtful. I only made it to impress my parents. That and when you sit down to write a choon, it's really easy to stick overdrive on a 4x4 and work upwards. Yes it sucks. But it's easy.

Edit again: ... I assume you were talking about fuck
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« Reply #15 on: 01 May 2006, 21:59 »
Is it bad that I can actually distinguish bits of the Maximo Park song from that?
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« Reply #16 on: 02 May 2006, 00:33 »
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Using the Amen is only a "crutch" if you're rubbish.


Hey, I like LTJ Bukem!

Luke Vibert has some good DnB-ish stuff on "Big Soup."  Then again, in true DnB fashion, it's all over the spectrum...some hip-hop beats, some IDM-y stuff, and a bit of noise for good measure.  A quality album.

Photek's "Modus Operandi" was a godamned masterpiece of thematic album construction.  Flowed perfectly, but every cut stood up on its own.  And the titular track was the perfect downtempo DnB cut...smoky and expressive.
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« Reply #17 on: 02 May 2006, 06:04 »
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That was really hurtful. I only made it to impress my parents. That and when you sit down to write a choon, it's really easy to stick overdrive on a 4x4 and work upwards. Yes it sucks. But it's easy.

Edit again: ... I assume you were talking about fuck


Shit, no, I wasn't talking about your tunes at all. I was returning to my previous theme of DnB being generally kind of lame at the moment. I go to a DnB night pretty much every week, and it's kinda depressing. All the tunes sound the same, except the crowd goes a little bit wilder when it's by Pendulum. Uuh. And believe me, a lot of them are. We're talking the same 5 pendulum tracks getting played in an hour and a half set every week. Now if you go and see a bigger name DJ, it's not quite as bad, but it's mostly still really samey. I blame the pill heads, which is slightly hypocritical but still a valid critism I think.

Anyway: Breakage - Drowning is tasty.
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« Reply #18 on: 02 May 2006, 08:36 »
Really?  I've found that very frew of the people I know in the scene still are into the pills...it's more about the alcohol and unfortunately the coke for some people.
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« Reply #19 on: 02 May 2006, 12:13 »
Im not really a big drum and bass fan but I know a Belgian guy who is a drum and bass dj, http://www.errormessage.be is his and his group's website.
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« Reply #20 on: 02 May 2006, 13:44 »
I've always thought that Luke C sounded like a Drum and Bass artist's name.

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I want sub-bass.


kk, got rid of the Khar track and uploaded something I did a while ago for a friend. I apologise for the self indulgent 60 second hi hat intro. I don't know why it's uploaded at such poor quality, either... :( http://www.myspace.com/iheartickis

By the way, the original is here:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=49151156&MyToken=3de53190-9056-4c5e-9219-6e4b5f0c93d6
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« Reply #21 on: 04 May 2006, 09:24 »
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I've always thought that Luke C sounded like a Drum and Bass artist's name.


I think I shall take this as a compliment.
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« Reply #22 on: 05 May 2006, 02:59 »
TODAY I AM A HAPPY BUNNY. IN THE POST, AFTER MUCH SERACHING, AND AN HMV ORDER THAT HAS BEEN OPEN FOR OVER A YEAR, I FINALLY HAVE MY VERY OWN COPY OF SQUAREPUSHER'S PORT RHOMBUS EP AND IT IS DELICIOUS.

THANKYOU.
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