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Ska is inherently faulty?

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Storm Rider:
On the contrary, I really needed to ease myself into death metal. I still don't like all of it, and I'm nearly beyond the age group you just mentioned. Really, the only reason I picked it up at all is because Testament became a sorta death/thrash hybrid on their later albums, and that acted as a jumping off point.

onewheelwizzard:
I wonder how musically sophisticated ska can be before it morphs into something else.  If it starts getting jazzy, well, it might as well just be jazz.  If it starts getting psychedelic, it might as well just be psych-rock.  If it starts getting distorted and heavy-sounding, I don't know what the hell's up with that ska, but I doubt it's ska anymore.

I think this is the reason why so many people hate it.  If really good musicians play ska, it'll only remain ska for so long before turning into a more snob-compatible genre.  It's the kind of stuff that you feel guilty about listening to if you take it seriously, because if it's actually ska, nowadays that means it really is just punk with trumpets, and that's a pretty silly idea when you think about it seriously.

I'm not saying that nobody is capable of genuinely enjoying ska, but anyone who takes a serious approach towards music in general won't find too much in there to be excited about.  I suppose it makes perfect sense that the main target audience of ska musicians are high-schoolers (and I think it's quite probable that the majority of ska fans are still in high school).

thermodynamics:

--- Quote from: TrueNeutral ---Wait, do you mean retarded as in really stupid or as in the actual condition?

If the latter, wow, I had no idea one could stop being retarded.
--- End quote ---



yeah, he was mildly retarded [i.e.   iq of under 70] but he got evaluated 3 years ago, and isn't anymore [iq  of 78].

weird, huh?

his favorite sport is wrestling, and he idolizes arnold schwartzenager.



though it is off-topic, i had to follow up the post.

Switch:
My school just had Reel Big Fish play for free in a huge outdoor concert. I went and enjoyed myself. I do not own any of their albums, and am not about to buy any. I can't really get into Ska if I listen to it. I like Ska concerts though, it's nothing but upbeat Christian kids skanking. It's fun.

ImRonBurgundy?:
okay, here's my take on it.

SKA BANDS THAT ARE GOOD:
Tokyo Ska Paradise Orchestra
The Skatalites
Fishbone
Chris Murray
Bad Manners
Mephiskapheles
Westbound Train
Hepcat
The Pietasters

SKA BANDS THAT MAKE ME WANT TO DIG MY EAR CANALS OUT:
Flip the Switch
Buck-o-Nine
The Suburban Legends
The Skananigans
High School Football Heroes
Codename: Rocky
A Billion Ernies
Detective Jabsco
Goldfinger

the point i'm trying to make here is that ska IS NOT shitty poppy punk bands with horn sections and retarded lyrics.  it's just that those bands have somehow come to typify the genre, and it's frustrating for anyone who's really into the genre to hear it dismissed because of these shitty, stupid bands that are essentially ruining the entire genre.  it would be akin to basing your opinion of all metal on Bon Jovi and Slipknot.

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