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Signs of the apocalypse...
Borondir:
Tergon, I can definitely sympathise with you. Growing up in rural Kansas (which wasn't nearly as isolated as rural Australia) I had a really hard time finding good music, not having much money and all. Also dial-up internet made it almost impossible to download music. But then about 3 years ago we got wireless internet. Problem solved.
The thing about allmusic.com for someone in our situations(my former situation) is it doesn't do you any good to find out about a band if you have no way of getting that band's music...
Bastardous Bassist:
--- Quote from: karl gambolputty... ---Last time I checked, Stan's been dead for 7 years, and we're talking about modern music. But I definitely agree that some movies have pretty killer soundtracks.
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Yeah, but I was just responding to what you said about the only place to hear good music in mainstream media is TV ads, which I think is wrong. Really good music can barely be referenced in the space of a TV ad. It requires development of themes, as well as the silence that is involved as a contrast. Hell, I just saw my college's composers forum (where student composers have their pieces played), and some college-aged kids are able to create some truly good and innovative music. Why haven't I heard anything truly innovative on a CD in years?
Rizzo:
--- Quote from: tommydski ---this is hilarious. i wish i was capable of this level of genius.
try to remember that musicians aren't responsible for your narrow cultural perception. maybe if you expanded your horizons beyond 'mopey industrial punk' (i'll bet you aren't really anyway...i mean do you really get up and listen to whitehouse every morning? or did i miss a meeting and afi are the new einsturzende neubauten?) you wouldn't 'want to die'.
your statement above is akin to a blind man criticising the paintings of the impressionist era. even if it was good...how would you know?
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Or it could be that you don't know me so you missed the part where I listen to both AFI and EN (Not to mention the rest of my music collection, which I dare say is quite varied).
I didn't throw any personal attacks at you so don't get personal with me.
Tommy, I'd appreciate it if you backed up your attacks on me with some reasoned arguments rather than just slandering me and telling me I have no taste. I didn't say indie sucked, I just said I found it boring. We don't need to agree on that. A simple 'I disagree' would be sufficient.
Anyway, like I said, I find that there's too much stagnation within modern music. Not just within the scenes I'm involved in but within almost all the popular music I hear.
When I hear Deerhoof I hear the same parroted indie sensibilities being repeated over and over. To me it seems, just as Khar is saying, that bands aren't really interested in doing anything new, anything ground breaking. I see this most when my friends play me Deerhoof or Modest Mouse or whatever they seem to think is the current best example of indie.
I hear the same in modern EBM and Industrial. Assemblage 23? Parroting every previous EBM artist.
The most interesting record I've heard recently would be Venetian Snares-Rossz Csillag Alatt Született. That was creative.
onewheelwizzard:
It seems to me that the reason nobody's doing anything innovative anymore is that the scope of what ISN'T innovative has increased so much in the past 4-5 decades.
Think about it. Nobody would've thought of "psychedelic" music in 1962, but by 1970 it was basically most of the way to passé. Nobody would've thought of "metal" in 1965, and look at where that went. Nobody would've connected the term "indie" to music before, say, the mid-90's, if not later, but now it's used to define a third of the music being released in America. For every genre, there's a time before which it didn't exist.
Now there's so many different musical styles out there that it's virtually impossible to pick up a guitar, play a song, and not have it sound exactly like some song that someone else came up with in the past. Give current musicians a break. There's no way you can ask them all to be John Cage.
Me, I'm perfectly happy listening to retreads. Plenty of bands are awesome despite the fact that they sound like a band from [insert number] years ago. Music doesn't need to be innovative to be good.
karl gambolputty...:
So in summary:
1)A lot of today's music is good
2)A lot of today's music is bad
3)The words 'good' and 'bad' are completely meaningless when talking about music.
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