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The Thread In Which Rizzo Reviews Deerhoof

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TrueNeutral:
Anyway, back to the topic.

Like I said in another thread, I think Deerhoof is pretty boring. I thought they were interesting for a while, mostly because they were weird new sounds, and listening to weird new sounds can pay off tremendously. Clap Your Hands Say Yeah and The Flaming Lips are examples of listening to weird new sounds that paid off tremendously for me, because I really love them now, but Deerhoof? On repeat listen, I realized they were just weird sounds, and the novelty wears off. It doesn't grow on you, it doesn't reveal fun songs underneath the crazy exterior, it's just random weird songs.

KharBevNor:
Quiet, plz.

TrueNeutral:
Do you masturbate to your own rhetoric?

EDIT: I meant tommydski, naturally
EDIT2: Strategic edit, Khar? Just as well, because I don't know what Supercillious means anyway.

KharBevNor:

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EDIT2: Strategic edit, Khar? Just as well, because I don't know what Supercillious means anyway.
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Arrogant.

I do that sometimes. I have anger problems.

Garcin:
Alright, seriously, why don't we all just simmer down.  Let's do a visualization exercise.  Picture some dude you've never met.  He's typing into his computer.  He's typing sort of fast like.  He's arguing.  With someone he's never met.  And probably will never meet.  On the internet.  Ha ha!  What a loser!  Gosh, that was funny!

(For record, I don't argue.  I discuss.)

TrueNeutral, I definitely see where you are coming from with the wierd noises bit.  Flaming Lips is a really interesting album to contrast against Deerhoof, because I think it brings out one of Deerhoof's greatest strengths: their narrative.  Deerhoof songs have narrative, as do the tracks on Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots, or the ones on any of the Fiery Furnaces' last three albums.  Khar mentioned, in another thread, Cocteau Twins and Tan-Hauser Gate, both of which I think are excellent bands that have this in common as well.

What I mean by "narrative", is that the songs don't tend to repeat themselves either lyrically or rythmically.  They tend to be segmented, either explicitly through the stories that the vocals literally tell, or melodically.  You would expect to find this on a "concept album", but I hasten to add that not all such albums are artistically consistent.  Listen to Gigadance -- a perfect example -- it has a beginning, a middle and an end.   Then try to imagine what that story might be.  It becomes less of a song, and more of a tone-poem.  That's how I appreciate Deerhoof.  Over-intellectual?  Probably, but then, if you've read my posts before, you'll probably realize that I have a terminal tendency in that direction.

But at the end of the day, you either like Satomi Matsuzaki's voice or you don't.  If you like it (which probably means you can listen to some j-pop without cringing, as I can), then the door is opened to liking the albums.  If you find Matsuzaki's vocals jarring, as I know many people do, then you're pretty much shut out of all the deeper stuff.  Liking or not liking her voice is not a taste that I would choose to characterize as "right" or "wrong".  For Westerners, it's not exactly run of the mill.

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