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« Reply #50 on: 25 Apr 2006, 18:45 »

once a band is mentioned, I hardly see a reason to mention it again.



edit: unless that band is bathory. then you must mention it whenever possible.
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« Reply #51 on: 25 Apr 2006, 18:49 »

I wasn't aware the Melvins even counted as punk. I always considered them proto-grunge. As in what Kurt Cobain wished he could do.
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« Reply #52 on: 25 Apr 2006, 19:17 »

haha that's funny. i'm wearing a melvins shirt right goddamn now.
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« Reply #53 on: 25 Apr 2006, 19:46 »

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once a band is mentioned, I hardly see a reason to mention it again.


Agreed. Since nobody mentioned them, X is must have..especially the "Los Angeles" album.
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« Reply #54 on: 25 Apr 2006, 22:23 »

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once a band is mentioned, I hardly see a reason to mention it again.


Agreed. Since nobody mentioned them, X is must have..especially the "Los Angeles" album.


Also Teenage Head. They rocked.
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« Reply #55 on: 26 Apr 2006, 02:10 »

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I haven't come across any no wave stuff (unless you count early Sonic Youth), and I'll probably have to order it either over the Internet or through a local store, but I'm really interested in checking it out.

I say go for early Swans and Lydia Lunch.
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« Reply #56 on: 26 Apr 2006, 03:01 »

Ooh, crikey! I forgot Rytmihäiriö. Insane thrash with homicidal lyrics = teh excellent.

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« Reply #57 on: 26 Apr 2006, 11:10 »

I've got the Cop/Young God/Greed/Holy Money compilation, though not Filth. I've heard a little about Lydia Lunch too, but not her actual music (not counting her guest vocals on Death Valley '69). Should I mainly go for Teenage Jesus for no-wave? Mars and DNA sound interesting to me too.
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« Reply #58 on: 26 Apr 2006, 15:24 »

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Should I mainly go for Teenage Jesus for no-wave?

For no-wave, yes. But for pure excellence, go for her solos (think early Swans/early Nick Cave/angry Tom Waits).
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« Reply #59 on: 26 Apr 2006, 20:23 »

I suppose I should mention Blatz as the epitome of punk in some ways. Decent backing band, then three vocalists - a guy who never seemed to wear clothing when on stage, and two hard as nails chicks. Musically they're okay at best, but that doesn't matter; there's just something very 'pure' punk about them...all of their recorded material sounds like it was done in one take with a case of beer - laughing, off-tune singing, complete fun. Hell, on a couple of their songs the music equipment cuts out.

I'd argue "Fuk Shit Up" or "Berkley is My Baby (and i wanna kill it)" should be on any starter punk comp.
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« Reply #60 on: 26 Apr 2006, 20:59 »

Cocobats! listen to them and love them, they're a japanese hardcore punk group. Nothing gets better than hearing someone scream "watashi wa" at the top of their lungs.
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« Reply #61 on: 26 Apr 2006, 22:34 »

Do you(All of you) consider Amen/Scum to be punk?

I'm interested in peoples opinions on this one.

I consider them punk because of their style and their lyrical content but the fact that they're signed and promoted by a major label decreases their 'scene points' so much that most of the punks here in NZ hate them.
I love 'em.
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« Reply #62 on: 27 Apr 2006, 03:58 »

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Do you(All of you) consider Amen/Scum to be punk?

I suggest you check out the finnish Amen, who will tear your ears off.

Their "Grind The Bastards Down" compilation CD should be relatively easy to track down.
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« Reply #63 on: 27 Apr 2006, 06:19 »

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I suppose I should mention Blatz as the epitome of punk in some ways. Decent backing band, then three vocalists - a guy who never seemed to wear clothing when on stage, and two hard as nails chicks. Musically they're okay at best, but that doesn't matter; there's just something very 'pure' punk about them...all of their recorded material sounds like it was done in one take with a case of beer - laughing, off-tune singing, complete fun. Hell, on a couple of their songs the music equipment cuts out.

I'd argue "Fuk Shit Up" or "Berkley is My Baby (and i wanna kill it)" should be on any starter punk comp.



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« Reply #64 on: 27 Apr 2006, 07:34 »

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YES FOR BLATZ


I love Learning how to Smile.


Indeed, fellow Chicago-person. And that's a great example of one of those "equipment malfunctions" with that second and a half of tape hiss or whatever it is.
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« Reply #65 on: 27 Apr 2006, 07:48 »

Great band?

CRIMPSHRINE

and to a lesser extent, Fifteen.
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« Reply #66 on: 27 Apr 2006, 08:44 »

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Do you(All of you) consider Amen/Scum to be punk?


"We fight forever, for all you despise!"

Or, yes.
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« Reply #67 on: 27 Apr 2006, 13:00 »

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I am taken aback by the fact that only one person mentioned The Descendents.  Crazy.  I personally think that they are one of the greatest punk bands ever.  But this may just be because I theyre very surf infuenced, and i love surf, but still, come on.  Several people mentioned Black Flag, i personally cant stand them, mainly because of Rollins, and the fact that they are the reason the Descendents broke up.  Im also amazed that not one person said anything about the Melvins.  King Buzzo rocks, and now with one Jello Biafra touring with them, they are the new greatest quattro ever.


Rollins is bulletproof. Even when he's doing shite like Scrapheap Challenge (or whatever variant it was he presented) he's still bulletproof because, well, it's Hank. As for the Melvins/Biafra material, like so much of Biafra's post-DK stuff it just sounds like an inferior Dead Kennedys which is a horrible waste of a band as good as The Melvins. I'm much more interested in this whole Melvins/Big Business team-up. Now that could be something really special.

Since a few of the great US bands have already been fawned over I feel rather compelled to add a list of UK stuff that's been sorely overlooked:
Bob Tilton, Canvas, Driven Down, Fig 4.0 (greatest melodic hardcore band ever. Yes, that does mean better than Kid Dynamite and even Dag Nasty), Stand, D-Rail, Get Stuffed, Charlie Don't Surf, Urko, Imbalance, Grover, Dagobah, Ebola, The Devils, Stalingrad, Narcosis, Voorhees, Mock Heroic, What Price Wonderland?, We Are Corpses!!, Trencher, Hard To Swallow, Solanki... damn we're good at punk.
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« Reply #68 on: 27 Apr 2006, 13:48 »

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Bob Tilton, Canvas, Driven Down, Fig 4.0, Stand, D-Rail, Get Stuffed, Charlie Don't Surf, Urko, Imbalance, Grover, Dagobah, Ebola, The Devils, Stalingrad, Narcosis, Voorhees, Mock Heroic, What Price Wonderland?, We Are Corpses!!, Trencher, Hard To Swallow, Solanki... damn we're good at punk.


Don't forget Blitz (even thought most oi sucks), Dogshit Sandwich, Rotunda, the Partisans, the Buzzcocks, and Leatherface.
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« Reply #69 on: 27 Apr 2006, 13:53 »

I think that my band is as punk as punk can be.

To most punks, selling records is selling out, major labels, etc. as far as I can tell.

We are SO punk, that we don't want anyone to like our music. We deliberately try and alienate everyone. And usually, it works. Disdain is our fandom.

We are also entirely self-serving and anti-establishment, in that we make our music entirely for our own entertainment, using no money, terrible recording equipment and mostly single-take live recordings that usually include hella mistakes.

We. Are. Punk, fuckers.
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« Reply #70 on: 27 Apr 2006, 17:46 »

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We are SO punk, that we don't want anyone to like our music. We deliberately try and alienate everyone. And usually, it works. Disdain is our fandom.

We are also entirely self-serving and anti-establishment, in that we make our music entirely for our own entertainment, using no money, terrible recording equipment and mostly single-take live recordings that usually include hella mistakes..


So you play grind then? :)
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« Reply #71 on: 27 Apr 2006, 20:34 »

BA DUM TSH
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« Reply #72 on: 27 Apr 2006, 21:02 »

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"We fight forever, for all you despise!"

Or, yes.

"Do you believe in me?
Cause I bleed in you
I don't care what they say
Money's infected!"
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« Reply #73 on: 27 Apr 2006, 21:11 »

PUNK IS DEAD
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« Reply #74 on: 28 Apr 2006, 01:30 »

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Urko, Voorhees

Yes!
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« Reply #75 on: 28 Apr 2006, 01:33 »

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PUNK IS DEAD

No, punk's not dead, it just sucks now.
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« Reply #76 on: 28 Apr 2006, 01:35 »

It's not dead, it just smells funny.
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« Reply #77 on: 28 Apr 2006, 01:54 »

Anyone for Pennywise?
C'mon...everyone's gotta know "Fuck Authority."

Though I more prone to Bad Religion, The Ataris, Chronic Future, Drowning Pool, Television, Flogging Molly, Goldfinger (though their earlier stuff is more ska revival-ish), Less Than Jake, Lit, No Use for a Name, The Descendents, Stone Temple Pilots, DVDA, The Unseen.

And more recent on the Cal punk scene, If all Else Fails.
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« Reply #78 on: 28 Apr 2006, 04:27 »

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It's not dead, it just smells funny.



yay Zappa references!
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« Reply #79 on: 28 Apr 2006, 04:38 »

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Urko, Voorhees

Yes!


Bloody hell, someone else on here that likes two of the harshest bands ever to be spat out from UKHC? Mint. Just don't ever tell me you were lucky enough to catch Urko live, I never did before Jas Toomer died.
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« Reply #80 on: 28 Apr 2006, 08:39 »

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We are SO punk, that we don't want anyone to like our music. We deliberately try and alienate everyone. And usually, it works. Disdain is our fandom.

We are also entirely self-serving and anti-establishment, in that we make our music entirely for our own entertainment, using no money, terrible recording equipment and mostly single-take live recordings that usually include hella mistakes..


So you play grind then? :)


Occasionally. But only taking the piss out of grind.

Just like we play traditional Irish music to take the piss out of the Pogues, who, coincidentally, were punks.
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« Reply #81 on: 28 Apr 2006, 15:49 »

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PUNK IS DEAD

No, punk's not dead, it just sucks now.


so, you've never heard Dillinger Four or Leatherface, i take it.
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« Reply #82 on: 28 Apr 2006, 16:10 »

Punk was my genre of choice for a long time.  It's since been slowly fading, but I still listen to quite a lot.  My favorites are the 80s hardcore punk type of stuff, Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, Minor Threat, Gorilla Biscuits, 7 Seconds and the like.  As well as a bunch of bands on SST (aforementioned Black Flag, Minutemen, etc.).  I've gone a bit into pop-punk, focusing on the stuff that sounds more like punk with a melodic edge then punk made to be pop.  And the genre growing in popularity, folk-punk.
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« Reply #83 on: 28 Apr 2006, 16:45 »

Folk punk rules! LISTen to the pogues and new model a rmy!

I woudl like to be in a folk punk band if i was not in afolk metal band

FOOOOLK

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« Reply #84 on: 28 Apr 2006, 16:55 »

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so, you've never heard Dillinger Four or Leatherface, i take it.

Actually no, no I haven't.
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« Reply #85 on: 28 Apr 2006, 17:44 »

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Folk punk rules! LISTen to the pogues and new model a rmy!

I woudl like to be in a folk punk band if i was not in afolk metal band

FOOOOLK

PUN KJ

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J'adore des Pogues.
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« Reply #86 on: 28 Apr 2006, 19:48 »

There aren't many of my favourites that haven't been mentioned, but...

The Mansfields
The Right Aways (obscure local Colorado stuff, pretty fun)
Lunachicks
Tsunami Bomb
Operation Ivy (might be kinda trite, but I still think they're classic)
The (Internation) Noise Conspiracy
does Ozma count? perhaps not.
And in the ska corner, The Toasters

Oh, and mad props to whoever mentioned the Aquabats. They may be a bit silly, but still. They make me feel warm and fuzzy inside. Kind of like eating a hampster.

Also mad props to the mentioners of Screeching Weasel, Minor Threat, and Gogol Bordello.


And it's probably out of print, but if anyone ever runs across a book called "Subculture: The Meaning of Style" by Dick Hebdidge, read it! It has one of the best deconstructions of 70s British punk ever. Ever.

Aww. I wanna go watch SLC Punk now...
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« Reply #87 on: 28 Apr 2006, 21:30 »

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so, you've never heard Dillinger Four or Leatherface, i take it.

Actually no, no I haven't.


well, you... uh... should.  probably.
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« Reply #88 on: 03 May 2006, 20:59 »

Srsly, NOMEANSNO
Solid as fuck.

(And fuck's pretty damn solid, far as I hear)
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« Reply #89 on: 03 May 2006, 21:47 »

Seconded on the Nomeansno.  They're kickass.
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« Reply #90 on: 04 May 2006, 04:44 »

Has anyone mentioned Lifetime yet? If not it is sinful.

Listening to recently: Lifetime,Jawbreaker,Leatherface,Dillinger 4,Latterman,Charlie Brown Gets A Valentine,Against Me!,Death Is Not Glamorous,Defiance Ohio,Billy Bragg,The Sainte Catherines.
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« Reply #91 on: 04 May 2006, 07:43 »

Despite it being released by some dick in Fallout Boy I'm nevertheless really looking forward to the new Lifetime record.

This thread could do with a little Ghost Mice and Soophie Nun Squad appreciation. Those bands sound like the best activist parties of all time.
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« Reply #92 on: 05 May 2006, 03:31 »

Bah has no one heard of the Angelic Upstarts?? They were and still are a punk band from south shields near Newcastle/Sunderland, they formed around the time of The Clash and The Sex Pistols, but unlike many of the skin head punk bands of the time they took a strong anti racism stance, and as well as that Mensi the lead singer is my dads cousin.

Oh and by the way i'm in DynamtieKid's band, we're so punk it hurts, really really hurts fuckers.
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« Reply #93 on: 05 May 2006, 05:36 »

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Despite it being released by some dick in Fallout Boy I'm nevertheless really looking forward to the new Lifetime record.


God damn right you are!
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« Reply #94 on: 09 May 2006, 10:20 »

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Only if you're the Casualties... eww, Casualties...

MINOR THREAT!
Bad Brains
Black Flag
Descendents
Dillinger Four
older Anti-Flag stuff
The Lawrence Arms
similarly older Bad Religion stuff
Bouncing Souls
Stiff Little Fingers
Buzzcocks
D.O.A. (from Vancouver)
Hot Water Music
Propagandhi
Social Distortion
and The Vandals

Also, I really liked AFI's "Answer That And Stay Fashionable", and some of their first EPs... oh, and do Atari Teenage Riot count as punk?
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« Reply #95 on: 14 May 2006, 17:39 »

I do love punk...

Bands that I didn't see listed here;

The Ergs!, The Unlovables, The Shemps, Four Deadly Questions, Affirmative Action Jackson, Bent Outta Shape, Modern Machines, Hunchback, Swing Ding Amigos, Paint It Black, Celebrity Murders - uh, more if I had to really think about it.
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