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Avant garde since that NWW list
nuisance:
Est, that list is fucken willfully obscure. Just happens to vaguely coincide with some of my interests, maybe more than most indie does, so I was seizing the opportunity. :) There's also equally formally inventive music that doesn't really fit the list...
I don't think the SYR releases are that good. Sure, they're very difficult listening, so yep, they qualify, but I don't really understand what the pay-off is.
I think there's a bunch of fairly recent guitar experimentalists that deserve inclusion. Keith Rowe from AMM (on that list) has collaborated with (maybe?) all of these guys, so I think that's good grounds straight up.
Oren Ambarchi
Christian Fennesz
Rafael Toral
Jim O'Rourke (not thinking of his 2 rock records, the other 5 or 6 albums of his I've heard would all deserve mention for various reasons)
Scott Walker - for his haunted "chamber pop" albums since the 80s
Some of the freaky jazz-meets-primitive-electronics nutso shit coming out on the Rune Grammofon label ... eg. Deathprod, Alog.
Maybe The Books, at least for the first album and also maybe Zammuto's solo albums before that, particularly the rattling driftwood vibes of 'Willscher'.
Basic Channel (techno gets clogged with sand and murmurs away under the desert, occasionally coming up crackling and fizzing)
Oval / Microstoria (think both acts have appropriately organic / sequencer-free vibes to them!)
Matmos... also Matthew Herbert when he's not doing house / pop, eg. as Radioboy or Wishmountain (I think both acts are pretty average, but taking musique concrete to the people in a relatively accessible format is kinda cool... and still, despite how that may sound, formally adventurous)
If we're including Coil, I think Chris & Cosey / CTI should be on there too.
Arthur Russell? Can we slip some disco in? If not, his 'World of Echo', I suppose.
Loop - Like Evil My Bloody Valentine, maybe with no beards tho...
Main - The unsettling creaking and scraping of Loop's guitarist, throwing out song forms and ... well, the band, altogether.
Nuno Canavarro - weird Portuguese experimentalist from the 80s...
I actually think the Animal Collective are really relevant too, but maybe only for their earlier stuff. That kind of noise/improv approach to electronics mixed with sorta primitivist leanings seems fitting. To me. Maybe. OK, fuck you. ;)
I dunno about 'Loveless', I love it, but I think it's too blissed out for the list. Likewise Cocteaus and This Mortal Coil. AND I AM SO SERIOUS ABOUT THIS I WILL FIGHT ANYONE WHO QUESTIONS ME. Or not at all.
brew:
--- Quote from: nuisance ---Christian Fennesz
Jim O'Rourke (not thinking of his 2 rock records, the other 5 or 6 albums of his I've heard would all deserve mention for various reasons)
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I totally agree on Fennesz.
I'm a huge fan of O'Rourke based on Insignificance and everything Gastr Del Sol did, but am still unfamiliar with his earlier non-Gastr albums outside of the one he did with Henry Kaiser... which ones would you recommend?
Aneurhythmia:
I like that Demetrio Stratos, Fred Frith, and Christian Vander all get separate listings from their respective bands.
Misereatur:
The Birth of Experimental Music
nuisance:
--- Quote from: brew ---
I'm a huge fan of O'Rourke based on Insignificance and everything Gastr Del Sol did, but am still unfamiliar with his earlier non-Gastr albums outside of the one he did with Henry Kaiser... which ones would you recommend?
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I actually haven't got any solo O'Rourke outside the two rock ones, others were ones I listened to at friends' places or borrowed from my local library (!).
The one I do definitely intend to buy is 'I'm Happy and I'm Singing and a 1, 2, 3, 4', which is 3 long pieces that basically sound like intense computer edits of a string quartet. It moves from deliberately clipped, stuttering stuff ("is my CD player OK?") to long drawn out sections in quite a lovely way, and a few of my friends said they thought it was better than Fennesz's 'Endless Summer' (from the same year, as was 'Insignificance', actually).
'Tamper' and 'Bad Timing' are the other ones I'd like to revisit, see if I shouldn't pick them up as well...
'Tamper' gets talked about a lot, and is tape music done by editing the front of notes played on orchestra instruments, just a whole heap of fades and splices, to create what sounds like electronic music. It's amazingly deceptive - like, it really doesn't sound like untreated acoustic sounds and the results are generally pretty enjoyable.
'Bad Timing' is also pretty fun, from memory a tip of a hat to Derek Bailey. It's all acoustic guitar, so has more in common with whatever that last track on 'Camofleur' is than his other instrumental albums. The title is in reference to the fact he did everything in one take, saying something about considering it stupid to try to get a perfect take with this kind of music.
Edit: Got the damn albums mixed up! Not 'Disengage', 'Tamper'!
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