Topic: dillinger escape whaa?? (Read 8357 times)

Faw · « **on:** 15 Jun 2006, 22:53 »

I was wondering if anyone could give some name drops of bands that have a similar sound as dillinger escape plan. And don't waste your time posting if you're just going to knock them. PM me with that shit if you want.

ramenXnoodles · « **Reply #1 on:** 15 Jun 2006, 23:26 »

I don't know any others, but DEP are ace.

Aneurhythmia · « **Reply #2 on:** 16 Jun 2006, 01:18 »

The classic DEP technical hardcore sound or the new stuff?

Converge, Botch, Coalesce, maybe Candiria?

You could draw comparisons to a lot of those shitty Trustkill Records hardcore bands from a few years back, as well as a lot of current tech metal bands.

pinkpiche · « **Reply #3 on:** 16 Jun 2006, 07:00 »

What? Converge and Coalesce? They have absolutely nothing in common with DEP. Converge is chaotic, shattering hardcore metal, which really doesn't draw ANY parallels to DEP at all. I don't know any other bands that sound like DEP though.

Storm Rider · « **Reply #4 on:** 16 Jun 2006, 09:41 »

If we're talking tech metal, then Necrophagist.

But DEP isn't really metal or good, so whatev.

Misereatur · « **Reply #5 on:** 16 Jun 2006, 10:34 »

I'm going to second Botch, and add Shitstorm and Cult Of Luna's first and second albums to the list.

SpacemanSpiff · « **Reply #6 on:** 16 Jun 2006, 13:27 »

The Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganza (that's their name, I can't help it), Into The Moat, PsyOpus and, although more metal-influenced, Ion Dissonance. The first two I mentioned are the closest, PsyOpus features a hell of a lot more complicated and very fascinating guitar work, and Ion Dissonance is ... well, loud.
And I totally second Botch. They are awesome.

Aneurhythmia · « **Reply #7 on:** 16 Jun 2006, 14:37 »

Quote from: pinkpiche

What? Converge and Coalesce? They have absolutely nothing in common with DEP. Converge is chaotic, shattering hardcore metal, which really doesn't draw ANY parallels to DEP at all. I don't know any other bands that sound like DEP though.

Yeah, I can't imagine anyone describing DEP that way...

They're all bands heavily influenced by hardcore and technical metal that came up in the same scene in the 90's. They took those influences to different stylistic ends, but to say that they have absolutely nothing in common is willful ignorance.

Why wouldn't you separate Botch out as well? They sound more like Converge and Coalesce than Dillinger. Dillinger mostly differ on their tech metal approach to guitar. Candiria are really the odd ones out on my list, and not because of their obvious jazz and rap influences. Because their incorporation of rhythmic and percussive complexity into the hardcore aesthetic is, in my opinion, far more cohesive than any of those other bands' attempts.

Sure, the OP could find a more similar listening experience in the pale imitations of DEP that plague the Trustkill catalog, but I think the suggestions I made are a more relevant and worthwhile option.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #8 on:** 16 Jun 2006, 18:33 »

[quote="Storm Rider"
But DEP isn't really metal or good, so whatev.[/quote]

No reallys.

No subtitles.

THE DILLINGER ESCAPE PLAN IS NOT FUCKING METAL.

THIS HAS NO RELEVANCE TO ANYTHING ABOUT THEIR QUALITY, THEY ARE JUST NOT FUCKING METAL.

La Creme · « **Reply #9 on:** 17 Jun 2006, 00:53 »

Tapping into a similar technical, heavy aspect:

- By The End Of Tonight
- Behold...The Arctopus
- Fantomas (occassionally, and especially if you liked the DEP with Mike Patton album, which is their best work I.M.O.)
- Lightning Bolt
- The Fall Of Troy

None of these match up perfect, but give em a try, I think you'll like them if you like DEP.

Faw · « **Reply #10 on:** 17 Jun 2006, 03:38 »

Thanks for the input, and i do like me some lightning bolt. It seems that the message here is that there's SO much seperation in the heavy music scene..... and if anyone suggested The Locust i was going to kill them through the internet. Now i'm off to download mountain!

pinkpiche · « **Reply #11 on:** 17 Jun 2006, 03:48 »

Quote from: Aneurhythmia

Quote from: pinkpiche
What? Converge and Coalesce? They have absolutely nothing in common with DEP. Converge is chaotic, shattering hardcore metal, which really doesn't draw ANY parallels to DEP at all. I don't know any other bands that sound like DEP though.

Yeah, I can't imagine anyone describing DEP that way...

They're all bands heavily influenced by hardcore and technical metal that came up in the same scene in the 90's. They took those influences to different stylistic ends, but to say that they have absolutely nothing in common is willful ignorance.

Why wouldn't you separate Botch out as well? They sound more like Converge and Coalesce than Dillinger. Dillinger mostly differ on their tech metal approach to guitar. Candiria are really the odd ones out on my list, and not because of their obvious jazz and rap influences. Because their incorporation of rhythmic and percussive complexity into the hardcore aesthetic is, in my opinion, far more cohesive than any of those other bands' attempts.

Sure, the OP could find a more similar listening experience in the pale imitations of DEP that plague the Trustkill catalog, but I think the suggestions I made are a more relevant and worthwhile option.

Well i just think DEP has a much more experimental approach to hardcore, and not so much about the "let's be brutal and make ears bleed". Converge are an epic band, but to say that they have a similar sound to DEP? That's just plain wrong. I know they have mostly the same influences but the directions they put their music in is very different from each other. In DEP's newest album there's electronics, synth and clear vocals. Converge, Botch OR Coalesce doesn't use any of that. And i'm sure that's what this guy is looking for. And the reason why i seperated Botch from the others was that i haven't heard much of them.

But for sheer recomendation, those bands are fucking awesome but they don't sound similar to DEP.

SpacemanSpiff · « **Reply #12 on:** 17 Jun 2006, 04:07 »

I can't speak for Coalesce or Converge as I don't much of their discography, but Botch does indeed use these elements (you might want to check out We Are The Romans for reference). But yeah, they still sound different.

Aneurhythmia · « **Reply #13 on:** 17 Jun 2006, 05:22 »

Quote from: pinkpiche

Well i just think DEP has a much more experimental approach to hardcore, and not so much about the "let's be brutal and make ears bleed". Converge are an epic band, but to say that they have a similar sound to DEP? That's just plain wrong. I know they have mostly the same influences but the directions they put their music in is very different from each other. In DEP's newest album there's electronics, synth and clear vocals. Converge, Botch OR Coalesce doesn't use any of that. And i'm sure that's what this guy is looking for. And the reason why i seperated Botch from the others was that i haven't heard much of them.

But for sheer recomendation, those bands are fucking awesome but they don't sound similar to DEP.

I'm not talking about anything post Calculating Infinity. And I don't think Dillinger has done anything really out there in light of earlier tech metal, but they sure put a lot of energy into it. I could see making a general distinction in terms of approach to guitar, but I think all of those bands exhibit similar inclinations in rhythmic construction, abrasive aesthetic, etc. Hell, during that period between vocalists, one of DEP's fill-ins was the vocalist from Coalesce.

daddsy · « **Reply #14 on:** 17 Jun 2006, 14:15 »

one of the poison the well albums is very simular in style to dep, although the rest are nothing like them in the slightest. The fall of troy, but someone said that already, are slightly simular, but to be honest, the dillinger escape plan are pretty unique. also isis or cult of luna are ever so slightly simular, except more progy. they are as interesting though. im looking at the comparisons on last.fm, but seeing as that includes the mars volta, erm, best to ignore there list.

Storm Rider · « **Reply #15 on:** 18 Jun 2006, 00:34 »

Spiral Architect.

They don't really sound that similar, but you should like them anyway.

Kai · « **Reply #16 on:** 18 Jun 2006, 09:10 »

Did they swipe that name from the Sabbath song?

Misereatur · « **Reply #17 on:** 18 Jun 2006, 09:48 »

They're a metal band, the answer is obvious.

timehat · « **Reply #18 on:** 19 Jun 2006, 12:38 »

And yet they sound nothing like Sabbath. Hilariously enough, I was going to recommend Watchtower, although mostly as a joke. The hilarious part being that Spiral Architect is just Watchtower pt. 2.

Aneurhythmia · « **Reply #19 on:** 20 Jun 2006, 00:17 »

I thought that was Spastic Ink.

timehat · « **Reply #20 on:** 20 Jun 2006, 10:12 »

I didn't mean it literally, I meant it derisively. Anyway, Spiral Architect still sounds more similar to Watchtower because of the vocals.

IntermittentEvil · « **Reply #21 on:** 20 Jun 2006, 14:05 »

I'll say... Genghis Tron. And maybe Orthrelm. They're both a bit wankier, whether that's your thing or not (I like it).

Faw · « **Reply #22 on:** 20 Jun 2006, 14:39 »

Ghengis tron! I AM THE LASER VIKING!!!

Der Golem · « **Reply #23 on:** 20 Jun 2006, 16:57 »

You would probably like The Red Chord. Get Fused together in revolving doors, it is an amazing album and just might be what you're after.

quietnow · « **Reply #24 on:** 20 Jun 2006, 17:34 »

crusty, but i like holy molar.

and i don't listen to a lot of dep, so.... my opinion is pretty unreliable. sry.

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