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What I would kill for:
jcknbl:
What does the fact that punk was made by working-class kids have to do with the music?
(I'll just answer both questions: a fair bit, you can't ignore where music comes from.)
Houdinimachine:
Yeah just like ska came from band nerds.
Anywho, I would kill for a George Harrison/Petra Haden duet album. I do believe I could die a happy man then.
Aneurhythmia:
--- Quote from: jcknbl ---What does the fact that punk was made by working-class kids have to do with the music?
(I'll just answer both questions: a fair bit, you can't ignore where music comes from.)
--- End quote ---
Race and class might have a strong correlation in certain areas, but I don't think that the arguments one could make for causal influence on music for class could similarly be made for race without a lot of sociological derivation.
Also, ska doesn't come from band nerds.
jcknbl:
I agree, class is usually more influential than race. That doesn't mean race is irrelevant though. Especially in the US race can be a huge part of one's identity (though obviously being in the majority means "white" isn't really a distinguising characteristic). Jazz, for example, is a product of racial hierarchy, the merging of two cultures with African Americans stuck in between. Jazz couldn't have started with poor-white people. It necessarily had to be poor-black people.
Ska, as it turns out, has a huge cultural history involving race. The Second Wave (The Two "Tone" movement) was in large part an effort to deal with racial tensions in the UK.
Houdinimachine:
That was a joke, Rhythmia...
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