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est:
So hang a minute.  Is the motherboard is fried or something?  I am not sure if I am missing out on some information here, but unless the motherboard is dead I'm not sure why you're not upgrading from a P4 to a Core2duo or quad instead of upgrading the motherboard.  You mention the cpu maybe being fried, but I can't see where you say what the problem is.

Nodaisho:
Sorry, thought I had said it already. My motherboard died, I'm not sure how, but it happened in about 10 minutes between turning the thing off, moving it into a different room, and turning it on again. I took it in to the shop to make sure, since I didn't want to end up spending money on the wrong part, and they said it was the motherboard, but I don't think they were expecting me to try to fix it myself, so I'm not sure if they might have forgotten to mention that it took the CPU with it.

Llewellian:

I dont know if there are sales like those you can get here @ Nodaisho's Part of the world, but if so, i would strongly suggest to go for one of those "Upgrade your PC" Kits. New Mobo+fancy new chip+decent Sellout-RAM-Sticks. Most often, such "Bundles" are sold to lower prices than everything together alone, most often at the same price of the new chip alone... and you know that everything fits more or less together.

I paid here in Germany at Conrad (the german equivalent to Radioshack) for a socalled "upgrade bundle" containing 1 Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16 GHz Socket 775 1333 FSB, 2x2 Corsair DDR2 1066 Mhz Fsb Ram and a Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P Mobo about 210 EUR.

With that... i am fixed up for the "next years" (since i never run very hardwarehungry games or progrs). And the good thing on it is: Newer RAM and things to upgrade further are cheaper than the old ones. Current prices here for outdated DDR Sticks are higher than the DDR3 ones because no one buys them anymore... same for your Grafix-Hardware. AGP costs more than PCI-E.

Nodaisho:
It isn't that I am worried about my motherboard frying if I put in a new processor, I already know my motherboard is dead, but in the process of finding out what was wrong with it, I found that the processor from the old family computer that I had lying around was actually faster than the one I had before. So I was asking to make sure I wouldn't buy a motherboard with the wrong kind of socket, then trying to find what I would want to get to make sure it wouldn't go obsolete quickly.

I've already got a PCI-E card (two, actually), and everyone else has been saying that DDR2 isn't going to become obsolete, so DDR3 would be a waste of money for my purposes. On Newegg, DDR3 is more expensive, though it still doesn't cost much for a couple of gigs.

Reed:
It's not that DDR2 isn't going to become obsolete, it's that there is no point in getting DDR3 for an LGA775 chip. There is very little noticeable difference between the two for playing games right now, and it will just wind up costing you more than you need to spend. Right now the amount of RAM you have will make a much bigger difference in games than the type of RAM. Assuming you have at least 2Gb of RAM the graphics card will make the biggest difference in game performance, followed by CPU. As I said before, DDR3 is only worth it if you are stepping up to Intel's nehalem or AMD's AM3 platforms (also, they don't support DDR2, so you have to upgrade).

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