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lulmotorized964rajek:
Another thing, you guys got me thinking about the negative and positive pressure situation, and the fact of sucking cool air in places. Not sucking dust would be great on the new rig, so would cool air intake.  I think Ill stay with the Noctua either way. Like I said sven3d is a site that has archived somewhere the fan test of every aftermarket 120 and the other one in push pull configuration on the Noctua and other coolers. I am finding out now what the best thermal paste is.

Here is my current Thermaltake Spin Q :

clockworkjames:
Yeh the Noctua NH-D14 is a beast, last cooler I bught was the original tuniq tower which was fantastic back in the day, the new one is apparantly a huge dissapointment. The Noctua NH-D14 might fuck with my dominator memory too, it's a good idea to think about how you are going to use it before jumping in for what tests the best, the Thermalright HR-02 however I will be buying soon-ish because it will be arse to face with my case exhaust fan and the 2 180mm fans just below it will mean plenty of airflow to let it be passive I think, the close proximity to the exhaust fan is what sealed the deal for me.

est:
If I was doing air I'd prob put the NH-D14 into my machine (if it would fit) and/or perhaps rig up some kind of baffle for one of the huge, quiet fans at the bottom of the case to see if it could be convinced to flow mostly into the HSF.  It'd probably fail, but it'd be fun to try out.

Also, while I do love this case I am sorely tempted to hock it to my brother at half off and either a give up big machines and get a little Mini-ITX case like I used for Hannah's pc (SG06) or go the other way and get a TJ07 and mod the crap out of it as basically everyone else does.  The main problem with the latter is that I'd prefer to use a couple of individual 140mm rads directly before each of the things I'm cooling and a decent pump rather than the usual 3x120mm stuck in the bottom of the case.  So unfortunately while the look of the TJ07 appeals to me it doesn't really fit in with what I want to try to do.

clockworkjames:
I never tried mini-itx, I like playing video games so they have never suited me. Seem like they are just for use as torrent boxes, NAS or simple desktops. Micro-atx is the smallest mobo I have used but that was a while ago on an amd platform.

I dunno about matx cases, they always seemed so cramped to work inside but if you have already done a build in the case you have in mind you should have a really good idea of how it will be. The mini p180 looks COOL for a lan box but for full size atx mobo's an isotope case might do the trick, just be careful as people who choose little cases always seem to come around to big ones again, I bought the ft02 with the intent of it lasting me a long time through upgrades to come. I dunno if you got a newer build of the FT02 or one of the first ones but the air penertator fans route air pretty damn well from my tests with pieces of paper and my hand, like I said is pretty much the only reason I wuld be happy with passive. I think this situation would benefit a big single group of fins over two individual arrays.

est:
Thankfully the mini-itx form-factor isn't just for Atoms and such low-power things anymore.  Han's mini-itx pc is as follows:

Silverstone Sugo SG06 with the PSU upgraded from 300w to 450w
Gigabyte H55 USB3 mini-itx mobo
Core i3 cpu (think it's a 540, can't remember. Future upgrade is a decent i5, and when this happens we'll probably get a H50 to cool it)
4 gb ram (future upgrade is higher performance ram.  I re-used this stuff from an old server build)
Geforce 460GTX gfx card
500gb hdd (future upgrade is a 60-120gb OCZ Vertex 2 for the OS, apps & games, 500gb drive for other data)

It is a decent enough machine.  I played a bit of Portal on her machine at max graphics (but a decent AA level) at 1680x1050 and it ran just fine.

The only thing that gives me pause is that there's been no onboard RAID on any of the mini-itx boards I've seen and no space for an expansion card, so my current RAID0 setup is impossible to replicate :(

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