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« on: 27 May 2006, 18:38 »
So I'm in love with a certain type of movies/tv shows/books, being anything involving a dirty/dark version of the future. I love when it's portraying the future and it's almost gone downhill from now.
Favorites that I'd include in this type would be Firefly (TV), Fallout (Video Games), Day of the Triffids (book, haven't seen the 1962 movie adaptation), The Road Warrior (Movie), or anything post-apocalyptic for that matter. Also Outland (movie) fits with this, and Trigun (TV) and Cowboy Bebop (TV) have been recommended.
So can anyone out there recommend anything else for me? I can't get enough of this stuff, I love post-apocalyptic and gritty futuristic stuff, and I need more!
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« Reply #1 on: 27 May 2006, 19:11 »
I would actually say that Firefly isn't in that category, it's just the perspective of the characters that it is. That's one of the thing I loved about it, actually. The Alliance (at least in the series) was less the Empire from Star Wars and more the Federation from Star Trek. It's just that you're seeing it from a different perspective.

However, that being neither here nor there, I'd recommend Ghost in the Shell, Planet of the Apes (and Beneath the Planet of the Apes), Blade Runner, A Scanner Darkly (I hope), ummm...

I'll think of more.
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« Reply #2 on: 27 May 2006, 19:19 »
Yeah, dystopian future.

William Gibson's Neuromancer (it's a book) is often said to have started the Cyberpunk genre, and it's definitely dystopian fiction.  I recommend it.

Also, Firefly is really something awesome, although like Ozymandias said, it's a matter of perspective and politics.

If you haven't seen The Matrix, you should definitely watch it (the original movie, that is).

Sadly I can't think of much else.
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« Reply #3 on: 27 May 2006, 19:32 »
Tank Girl (Movie and comics),The Stand (Book and miniseries),Trigun (Television),Blue Gender (Television).
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« Reply #4 on: 27 May 2006, 19:40 »
BRAZIL  Srsly.
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« Reply #5 on: 27 May 2006, 20:08 »
There's an entire category of post- and pre-apocalyptic movies on the Wiki.  Here.

Fatty named one of the best - The Stand.  Seriously.  Book and movie are brilliant.
Um, what else?  There's a heap of action-oriented movies like that from a decade or two ago... around the era of Demolition Man and the original Terminator.  A lot of Steven King's other books, and maybe one or two from James Herbert, though they're not really that futuristic.

I Am Legend by Richard Matheson.  Again, it's more current-times than futuristic, but still... it's awesome.  This is the novel that inspired Night of the Living Dead and 28 Days Later.

And though it's a bit of a stretch... Serenity is a good one.  Perhaps not apocalyptic, but it's certainly a dark-future film.
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« Reply #6 on: 27 May 2006, 20:16 »
"Absolon." Set in a dark future world where a virus killed almost all the people!

Starring acting powerhouses Christopher Lambert and Lou Diamond Phillips!

...it's not very good!
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« Reply #7 on: 27 May 2006, 20:37 »
Man, why didn't I call this thread 'dark future' or 'dystopian future'. Dirty future sounds so... dirty.
Thanks for suggestions, but I've seen (and own some of): Blade Runner, Tank Girl, Serenity, 28 Days Later, and of course the matrix. I was trying to think of these when I was thinking of what else I liked like that earlier... Shoddy memory of mine
28 Days Later I found to just have some problems in how they act in addition to actually having the world still alive at the end. Serenity is actually the movie continuation of Firefly, so go check that out! Browncoats for life!
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« Reply #8 on: 27 May 2006, 20:48 »
The Jaunt may be an interesting read for you. It's by Stephen King, set in the future, and about how future technology can go bad (in kind of the same way that cars allow us to have car accidents, drunk drivers, etc). It's a short story, in The Skeleton Crew, if I remember. The way the story's set up, it's half Frankenstien/half futuristic stuff.

Also I second/third/whatever The Stand. I love it because it's so long that by the time I finish it, I'm all, "Wait, what happened in the begining agian?" and then I get to read it agian.
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« Reply #9 on: 27 May 2006, 22:27 »
Half-Life 2 is an awesome video game that portrays a dark future. As for books, 1984 is a good one.
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« Reply #10 on: 28 May 2006, 00:55 »
I can't believe nobody said Mad Max yet. What is the world coming to when that isn't the first thing people associate with post-apocalyptic and gritty?

GEEZ.
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« Reply #11 on: 28 May 2006, 13:00 »
Snow Crash, dude, Snow Crash.

It's by Neal Stephenson and it's fuckin rad.  Among the things portended are the failure of multiculturalism giving way to faction and capitalism totally running amok.  Plus there's a doomsday cult and a bunch of Sumerian shit.

Seriously.
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« Reply #12 on: 28 May 2006, 15:58 »
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I can't believe nobody said Mad Max yet. What is the world coming to when that isn't the first thing people associate with post-apocalyptic and gritty?

GEEZ.


Uh... actually it was mentioned.  Though technically you're right: it was the FOURTH thing that Slick thought of when he started this thread, not the first.

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Favorites that I'd include in this type would be Firefly (TV), Fallout (Video Games), Day of the Triffids (book, haven't seen the 1962 movie adaptation), The Road Warrior (Movie)



Oh, yeah... and the obvious V for Vendetta.  Has it been mentioned yet?  I don't think so...
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« Reply #13 on: 29 May 2006, 00:07 »
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Snow Crash, dude, Snow Crash.

It's by Neal Stephenson and it's fuckin rad.  Among the things portended are the failure of multiculturalism giving way to faction and capitalism totally running amok.  Plus there's a doomsday cult and a bunch of Sumerian shit.

Seriously.


Three cheers for post-cyberpunk lit!

This seems to be an obscenely broad definition of dark future; when Mad Max, 28 Days Later, Neuromancer, and 1984 are all the same genre, we might do well to narrow our focus a bit.

Though I did just crack open Virtual Light after a long absence and find it remarkably refreshing.  Very much post-cyberpunk smartassery combined with vivid settings  The Bridge is totally bumping as a location concept.
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« Reply #14 on: 29 May 2006, 02:53 »
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« Reply #15 on: 29 May 2006, 04:11 »
Ah, yes, the Dystopian theme... awesome! Kinda rare in movies, though...

For movies, we have V for Vendetta, Equilibrium, Fahrenheit, Blade Runner, Matrix...

Computer games on the other hand kick ass at this, from Deus Ex to System Shock, from Fallout to Half Life 2 and so on.

Forgot to mention TV shows, but right now i can only recall Charlie Jade.
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« Reply #16 on: 29 May 2006, 06:59 »
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Though I did just crack open Virtual Light after a long absence and find it remarkably refreshing.  Very much post-cyberpunk smartassery combined with vivid settings  The Bridge is totally bumping as a location concept.


Virtual Light is more cyberpunk than post-cyberpunk...


I'm surprised Dark City hasn't been mentioned yet.
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« Reply #17 on: 29 May 2006, 10:34 »
Broad definition, yes, but it's just a broad definition of some of my favorite things. It's not really a genre, no, I just love things set in the future (near or distant) where we haven't fixed everything. Star Trek = blah, Firefly = win. The universe is still semi-corrupt, smugglers and pirates can make a living, and spaceships don't have food synthesizers and waste recyclers, just toilets that come out of your cabin wall and bland protein supplements.

V for Vendetta, Snow Crash, and The Stand seem to be topping my 'to get' list now.

Dark City was a great read, is the movie worth watching?

And does anyone want to port Half Life to the mac, hmmm? Pretty please?
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« Reply #18 on: 29 May 2006, 14:14 »
movies: everything that was said before me is agreed with.

books: The Dark Tower series by Stephan King
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« Reply #19 on: 31 May 2006, 06:26 »
Whoops, I thought that The Road Warriors must have been a different movie. It was Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior here :/

On the subject of computer games, the Dystopia mod for Half Life 2 has some really good multiplayer mechanics behind it. It's only in beta at the moment, but plenty of people still play it.
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« Reply #20 on: 02 Jun 2006, 21:48 »
Hey, if you want to bring up video games...Deus Ex.  Really, that's the last dark future game you'll ever need.
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« Reply #21 on: 03 Jun 2006, 06:59 »
Seriously. Don't even bother with the sequal, the original is amazing.
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