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drugs: visual art versus audible art
Houdinimachine:
--- Quote from: KharBevNor ---Some people just do better on drugs. Ewigkeit's albums, for example, are becoming steadily more pedestrian since Mr. Fog stopped using drugs (heavily), though, to be fair, pedestrian Ewigkeit still sounds like total tripped out shit, and I don't think the paranoia will EVER go away.
Also, why do you differentiate between alcohol and other drugs? Just because alcohol is more normal or socially acceptable doesn't make it not a drug. There's also a cultural aspect: music is more intricately linked to the drug culture, like pop art, whereas traditional and conceptual art has more...pretension? Still, many great artists and poets have been alcoholics, or opium addicts. Many more have simply been terribly mentally unstable. Lovecraft couldn't have written without his nightmares any more than Coleridge could have written without his opium. Everyone has different sources of inspiration, and different reasons to take drugs: some people don't relate their use of drugs or alcohol to their work, others make it integral. Some experimental musicians, writers and artists have deliberately used drugs as a means of pushing the boundaries of art (Coil's album 'Loves Secret Domain', apparently produced within one ritualised LSD trip, instantly comes to mind.) Other creative persons have created great works of art, literature or music about drugs (Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas anyone?).
I think you're creating a false dichotomy anyway. Also, I am a dull, boring lazy fucker, and I don't do (many) drugs.
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I don't differentiate. I called alcohol a drug. But trust me, I've been around stoners and I've been around those same stoners when drunk. They turn into the "I love you, man!" guy when drunk. They turn into lazy asses when they're stoned. I'm sure there's some other drug that has the same effect as alcohol on them but they don't do anything other than pot and alcohol and even then in moderation.
KharBevNor:
--- Quote from: Kai ---Fear and Loathing really is pretty much my favorite book ever.
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It is a fine book indeed. My copy has some fucking wicked Steadman illustrations.
Kai:
Yeah, I have the steadman illustrations in mine, too. That man can draw some twisted shit.
Lines:
seriously...it dependson the person. more of my non-art friends are more into drugs than my art friends and about half of everyone is involved with alcohol. personally, the only things i do are occasionally smoke cigarettes and maybe have a drink. but seriously...that's it. i hate drugs and won't ever do them. i'd rather get inspiration from thinks like life and dreams and things i see or read. i have yet to meet someone totally dependent on substances for inspiration.
the only think i noticed is that if you're involved in any form of art, i.e. visual, aural, or literature, you probably smoke or have smoked some form of tobacco at least once in your life.
and i think the reason you hear more about musicians doing drugs is because they are more in the spotlight in terms of publicity. music is a mass art form, whereas most visual art is not, so people tend to know more about musicians than they do artists.
Rubby:
With personal experience I’ve found that drugs don’t help in the creative process at all, quite the opposite actually. I’ve gone to a few band practices and such while stoned and made a complete ass of myself. I’d forget entire parts of songs, or look at the chords written out for me and take a second to remember where a certain note is. As far a writing material goes, you can forget that as well. If I had written something while stoned, I would listen to the scratch recording the next night and realize it either sounds like shit, or I ripped it off someone else.
This is just personal experience of course and I can’t speak for other musicians out there, but I just thought I’d share my $0.02 with you all considering the topic.
Also keep in mind that this is all just pot (I’ve actually found to my surprise that I’m a quite competent player while slightly drunk and always drink a little before shows to ease my nerves). I’ve forced myself to stop doing anything “heavier” than pot because of some very pour life choices in my past.
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