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Most people don't understand film as an artform
Garcin:
--- Quote from: Ribbon Fat ---Make of this what you will.
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Provocative, but sophomoric. If inquiry into human behavior was your measuring stick, Altman and Mamet would be deified by the art film world, but certainly not Fellini, Bunuel, Bergman, Tarkovsky, de Sica, Kurosawa. You hint at a hierarchy of cinematic worth by referring to "true masters". I recommend you catch up on old Pauline Kael reviews, and ponder why there has to be a hierarchy at all.
brew:
--- Quote from: ForteBass ---Regarding differences of pop and classical anything: What we consider "Fine-arts" was the pop of its day. Big band jazz was the pop of its day.
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Not to get too off-topic, but who's ever thought of big band jazz as "fine art" or "classical"? I've always seen it as pop. I can see what you're saying to a point, but that's a horrible example.
The article on idealist vs. pragmatic forms looks interesting, but I don't have time to read it all at the moment. I will look into it later.
Scandanavian War Machine:
I think this whole discussion is stupid. most of the time i see art as people trying to give meaning or definition to something that has none. whats the point? its like trying to swim eight feet down in a four foot pool.
a movie is a book with pictures. a book is just a thought written down. a thought is an electrical fucking impulse.
thats highly over simplified but im very tired and still trying to make a semi-coherent point (which is hard enough when well rested, which i am not).
dont get me wrong, i have no problem with "art" in any of its forms. i just think people need to stop trying so hard, thats all.
MWhaling:
I guess you've really got a firm grasp on the human condition.
Ribbon Fat:
--- Quote from: MWhaling ---I guess you've really got a firm grasp on the human condition.
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I don't; that's what I want films and art to give me.
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