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Most people don't understand film as an artform

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happybirthdaygelatin:
I think you may be the first to agree with me on that.

Johnny C:

--- Quote from: happybirthdaygelatin ---Citizen Kane
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I have pretty much no urge to watch "Citizen Kane." Thank you for now giving me a reason.

Houdinimachine:

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No argument to be won here. I said I enjoyed Tarantino in another thread; I'm just opposed to his postmodern/nostalgiac/clever pastiche approch to filmmaking, which I hate. But I also I kinda like him. I had a "hella" (to use the parlance of our times) good time at Kill Bill.

It's all fake though. It's not art. It tells me nothing about life.
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That's where you're wrong. Kill Bill breathes its life from a pure love of certain genre films that it homages directly throughout the experience. You tell me that you came away with nothing from Kill Bill? You were sleeping then. I came away with an appreciation of samurai grindhouse films that has grown to an obsession since. If anything, Tarantino is excellent at making the audience feel what he wants them to feel. As a screenwriter myself, I believe the greatest artists can make an audience leave feeling overwhelmed with what they've seen. (Either with questions or with wonder and appreciation.) I came away from Kill Bill feeling like I had just been a part of a religious experience. That religion being film.

Kill Bill is a loveletter to pulp film, a style that has sadly gone missing in the last twenty years for the most part.

Now, does this say that Tarantino is as good with handling actors as Hitchcock or as skilled with capturing the absurd horror of life as Herzog? No, all it says is he knows how to make a film grab you and make you think. Refusing to call something that visceral art is like refusing to label ballet as art because you think it's a sport. Modern ballet may not teach you about the human condition, but it can make you think and appreciate the beauty of the human body in motion.

happybirthdaygelatin:

--- Quote from: Johnny C ---
--- Quote from: happybirthdaygelatin ---Citizen Kane
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I have pretty much no urge to watch "Citizen Kane." Thank you for now giving me a reason.
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How so?  I'm curious!

Scandanavian War Machine:

--- Quote from: Ribbon Fat ---It's all fake though. It's not art. It tells me nothing about life.

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you should not be looking to learn about life from movies anyway. live your life and learn from it.


unless you are one of those unfortunate souls trapped in a bubble or something.

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