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« Reply #50 on: 12 Jul 2006, 02:24 »

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1) Wood does suprisingly little.  I have built guitars, I know this for a fact.  D'Aquisto once built an archtop out of, I shit you not, cardboard, a little bit of plywood, and paper maché.  It could kick more ass than 90% of guitars out there.  It's how the materials are put together, not what they are.


Again, that was from a qualified luthier. If it's something put together by a machine, it does make a difference. Why is it then, that mahogany and alder guitars sound totally different? The guitar fairy you mentioned earlier?

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2) You really have no faith in people.  It's easy to say "people know Fender, so they're going to buy them."  As far as I'm concerned, anyone who goes into a store and buys the first guitar they see just because of some name isn't a guitar player, they're a tool.  God forbid they'd play more than one thing before they buy.


You mean to tell me there is absolutely no unjustified hype around this brand?

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3) http://toronto.craigslist.org/msg/180920377.html  enough said.


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Name something revolutionary that another company is doing?  


Gibson inventing the humbucker.
Conklin's fanned-fret extended range instruments, Steinbergers Graphite necks since god knows when, Ibanez and Schecter making 7-strings and baritones available to mere mortals, Rickenbacker (IIRC) making 24-fret guitars available.. The list goes on, but that's all I can recall at the top of my head.

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4) Lets see... Funk, Punk, R&B, Jazz, Soul, Gospel, Rock (and yes, strats can handle hard rock, and regular teles can actually hold their own in metal settings), Pop, Klezmer, Reggae, Ska, Dub, and just about everything else - Fenders can handle it.


Handle is one thing, excel is an entirely different ball game. Why is it that I only see a fraction of Jazz guitarists playing anything other than hollowbodies? Why do the punks either use Gibson-style guitars, or put humbuckers in their Fenders?
You're right on the Ska, Funk, Reggae and that stuff. That's where they do excel.

But tele's for metal?! What? Do you even play metal in the first place? First of all, you'd need a pickup change. The body woods used for teles are actually good for that genre, as Ash and Alder give a nice clarity in the tone, especially when detuning. However, the standard Tele bridge just looks to flimsy to me, and not really well suited for palm muted trem picking, or any kind of brutal playing.
A few death metal dudes, most notably Obituary and Jon Levasseur (ex-Cryptopsy) have used strats, but with modifications aplenty.

And IMO(!!!!) single coils just don't deliver a good rock rhythm tone, no matter what you do amp-wise, it'll always lack balls compared to humbuckers.



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5) Fuck /no one/ needs an American strat.  Shove some Duncan's in a Mexicaster and holy hell that's a fine ass guitar for way less than your nancy-boy pointy-ass Ibanezs.  The only thing cool about the Prestige series (other than the DiMarzios in some, those are the sex) is the piezo bridge - but wait, Fender has that.  And they're better piezos at that.


Still a matter of taste. And just for the record, my Ibanez is as pointy as a tennis ball. It's an S-series. My washburn on the other hand is a lil' kinky lookin'.

What model fenders have piezos? I've never seen those. As far as I recall, Carvin has them as well.


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Go out and actually play a Fener tomorrow.  A stock, Mexican made (Japenese if you're feeling particularly peckish) Fender.  Play a couple.  Guaranteed you'll find something you love.  Perhaps a nice black telecaster with a sexy sexy maple fretboard.  Then you're going to go see a replacement pickguard in the clearance bin, and suddenly you won't feel so bad about it looking like someone else's guitar.


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« Reply #51 on: 12 Jul 2006, 06:41 »

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Go out and actually play a Fener tomorrow.  A stock, Mexican made (Japenese if you're feeling particularly peckish) Fender.  Play a couple.  Guaranteed you'll find something you love.  Perhaps a nice black telecaster with a sexy sexy maple fretboard.  Then you're going to go see a replacement pickguard in the clearance bin, and suddenly you won't feel so bad about it looking like someone else's guitar.


go out and actually play a fender? ive played plenty of strats and teles but none of them hit the sweet spot for me like a gibson. however i still do like fenders.

but seriously stop being such a fender whore.
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« Reply #52 on: 12 Jul 2006, 09:49 »

either you like a brand or you don't. it's all personal preferance. woo hoo.

does anyone play a 12 string?
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« Reply #53 on: 12 Jul 2006, 13:01 »

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does anyone play a 12 string?


I wish I did, but I haven't the cash to buy one. It would be great though, to have an electric 12-string and just go drone-crazy.

At this year's Roskilde Festival, I saw Opeth, and when they played "Closure" Mikael whipped out a PRS 12-string which was just teh uber-sex ov sexiness +2. I've wanted one even more since that.
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« Reply #54 on: 13 Jul 2006, 12:28 »

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either you like a brand or you don't. it's all personal preferance. woo hoo.

does anyone play a 12 string?


I've played a few. Bastard to tune, dream to play. Absolutely wonderful.

As for PRS...I despise PRS guitars. And not just because I think they look like shiny crap and are ridiculously priced - oh wait, that is why I despise them.

But I wouldn't like them that aside. I don't like the way they sound or the way the play, or the way they feel.
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« Reply #55 on: 13 Jul 2006, 16:20 »

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1) Wood does suprisingly little.  I have built guitars, I know this for a fact.

You hav'nt read the links I posted, right?



Call me a hypocrit, but I didn't feel like reading a long post.
Considering the usual length of mine, that's pretty stupid, but hey, I'll fess up to that one.
Not like I'm a complete ass.
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« Reply #56 on: 13 Jul 2006, 16:39 »

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1) Wood does suprisingly little.  I have built guitars, I know this for a fact.  D'Aquisto once built an archtop out of, I shit you not, cardboard, a little bit of plywood, and paper maché.  It could kick more ass than 90% of guitars out there.  It's how the materials are put together, not what they are.


Again, that was from a qualified luthier. If it's something put together by a machine, it does make a difference. Why is it then, that mahogany and alder guitars sound totally different? The guitar fairy you mentioned earlier?

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2) You really have no faith in people.  It's easy to say "people know Fender, so they're going to buy them."  As far as I'm concerned, anyone who goes into a store and buys the first guitar they see just because of some name isn't a guitar player, they're a tool.  God forbid they'd play more than one thing before they buy.


You mean to tell me there is absolutely no unjustified hype around this brand?

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3) http://toronto.craigslist.org/msg/180920377.html  enough said.


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Name something revolutionary that another company is doing?  


Gibson inventing the humbucker.
Conklin's fanned-fret extended range instruments, Steinbergers Graphite necks since god knows when, Ibanez and Schecter making 7-strings and baritones available to mere mortals, Rickenbacker (IIRC) making 24-fret guitars available.. The list goes on, but that's all I can recall at the top of my head.

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4) Lets see... Funk, Punk, R&B, Jazz, Soul, Gospel, Rock (and yes, strats can handle hard rock, and regular teles can actually hold their own in metal settings), Pop, Klezmer, Reggae, Ska, Dub, and just about everything else - Fenders can handle it.


Handle is one thing, excel is an entirely different ball game. Why is it that I only see a fraction of Jazz guitarists playing anything other than hollowbodies? Why do the punks either use Gibson-style guitars, or put humbuckers in their Fenders?
You're right on the Ska, Funk, Reggae and that stuff. That's where they do excel.

But tele's for metal?! What? Do you even play metal in the first place? First of all, you'd need a pickup change. The body woods used for teles are actually good for that genre, as Ash and Alder give a nice clarity in the tone, especially when detuning. However, the standard Tele bridge just looks to flimsy to me, and not really well suited for palm muted trem picking, or any kind of brutal playing.
A few death metal dudes, most notably Obituary and Jon Levasseur (ex-Cryptopsy) have used strats, but with modifications aplenty.

And IMO(!!!!) single coils just don't deliver a good rock rhythm tone, no matter what you do amp-wise, it'll always lack balls compared to humbuckers.



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5) Fuck /no one/ needs an American strat.  Shove some Duncan's in a Mexicaster and holy hell that's a fine ass guitar for way less than your nancy-boy pointy-ass Ibanezs.  The only thing cool about the Prestige series (other than the DiMarzios in some, those are the sex) is the piezo bridge - but wait, Fender has that.  And they're better piezos at that.


Still a matter of taste. And just for the record, my Ibanez is as pointy as a tennis ball. It's an S-series. My washburn on the other hand is a lil' kinky lookin'.

What model fenders have piezos? I've never seen those. As far as I recall, Carvin has them as well.


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Go out and actually play a Fener tomorrow.  A stock, Mexican made (Japenese if you're feeling particularly peckish) Fender.  Play a couple.  Guaranteed you'll find something you love.  Perhaps a nice black telecaster with a sexy sexy maple fretboard.  Then you're going to go see a replacement pickguard in the clearance bin, and suddenly you won't feel so bad about it looking like someone else's guitar.


Dude.. Why do you think I've been saying all this? Really. Think hard.
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1)  People who work for Fender and build their guitars are trained.  Since they built guitars (and other stringed instruments for that matter) they qualify as luthiers.  And mahogany and alder sound different mostly because being different woods they have different densities.  Don't be an idiot.

2)  Oh, absolutely.  Congratulations, you're a humanitarian!  You're offended that idiots are being played like the guitars they're buying!  Wowee!

3)  Seth Lover invented the humbucker, not Gibson.  And even that's not true.  Technically a split pick-up you'd find on a P-Bass is humbucking, which would put its invention at around 1937 when Rickenbacker started putting them on their lapsteels.
I'll give you the fanned frets, they're pretty cool.  Except for one thing.  Extended fretboards suck the tone out of your neck pickup.  They push it out of the sweet spot and it just ends of muddy.  Are those extra two notes really worth it?  I really doubt it.
Does anyone else see anything funny about him saying that Fender needs to do something new because they haven't since the advent of the strat, yet he's just listed a bunch of things that aren't exactly new in the slightest?  When does sliced bread get put on the list?

4)  You haven't seen guys play jazz with other stuff than hollowbodies because you don't go and see to many jazz shows.  Only the traditionalists really stick with hollowbodies.  Some of the best jazz guitar players out there (Mike Stern, Michael Occipinti, Geoff Young, Ryan Droplet, the mighty Holdsworth, etc) all play Fender (or in Stern's case, a Yamaha pretending to be one).  Not all punks do that, anyways.  Strats are still huge in punk, and teles never go out of style.
When I say metal I don't mean "hey lets tune our guitars really low and growl like fucking idiots because that's way hardcore" metal.  Teles are awesome, but you really need a specialized (and pointy) guitar for stuff like that.  I'm talking good old earlier and even glam stuff.  It's not how much gain you have, its how you use it, and teles can bust out some fuckin' heavy tones with the right amp.  Especially the maple fretboard ones.
Oh, and no.  I don't play metal.  I don't like metal.  That is why I play a lot of other stuff instead.  And I'd be comfortable bringing my strat out to anything.
Single coils are awesome.  Tom Morello knows this, and gets metal tones this way.  Rhythm pickup too.
Fender had a couple special editions (a strat, tele, and a jazz bass if I remember) that all had Fishman powerbridges in them.  The more upscale Nashville tele also comes standard with it.
They are options with Carvin, because Carvin is hardcore awesome.

And no, I have no idea why you're saying things.  I really don't care.  I know why I am though, but that's my dirty little secret.
Oh wait, no its not... Ibanez suck.  Almost forgot.
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« Reply #57 on: 13 Jul 2006, 20:38 »

mrcarter is there any reason to be so pretentious about guitars? you have 12 posts or something in these forums and your kind of coming off as a real asshole.
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« Reply #58 on: 13 Jul 2006, 21:29 »

Seriously, dude, don't be a dick.
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« Reply #59 on: 14 Jul 2006, 03:02 »

If carvin is so hardcore awesome, why don't you just play those?!
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« Reply #60 on: 14 Jul 2006, 04:42 »

The tone knob on my Squier P-Bass just...dropped off, and it doesn't seem to want to reattach. How do I get it back on and make it stay there?
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« Reply #61 on: 14 Jul 2006, 04:58 »

Go to the store you bought it in and ask them about it. If its relatively new then ask them to fix it.
Its allways best to go to someone that knows about guitar building and maintenance to fix it insted of trying yourself, even if it costs you money.
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« Reply #62 on: 14 Jul 2006, 07:18 »

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I wish I did, but I haven't the cash to buy one. It would be great though, to have an electric 12-string and just go drone-crazy.
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me too. i know they can be a pain, but the sound is amazing and i want one ohsobad.
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« Reply #63 on: 15 Jul 2006, 20:20 »

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mrcarter is there any reason to be so pretentious about guitars? you have 12 posts or something in these forums and your kind of coming off as a real asshole.


Because the number of posts on a forum for a webcomic is directly proportional to one's knowledge of guitars...

Anyways, I'm really only here because SputnikMusic closed down with MxTabs.  This is friendly banter by comparison to the usual thread in there, so its takin' a bit to settle down.  Plus Lummer is an ass.
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« Reply #64 on: 15 Jul 2006, 20:21 »

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If carvin is so hardcore awesome, why don't you just play those?!


Because I'm not an idiot who only plays one kind of guitar like you Ibanez fanboys.
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« Reply #65 on: 15 Jul 2006, 21:56 »

What he's saying is that if you guys don't shut up soon, you're going to wake up grandpa, and you know what that means.
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« Reply #66 on: 16 Jul 2006, 00:03 »

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If carvin is so hardcore awesome, why don't you just play those?!


Because I'm not an idiot who only plays one kind of guitar like you Ibanez fanboys.


ibanez fanboys? i play gibson and ibanez yeah but my respect for those guitars is nowhere near your obsession over fender.
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« Reply #67 on: 16 Jul 2006, 04:13 »

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mrcarter is there any reason to be so pretentious about guitars? you have 12 posts or something in these forums and your kind of coming off as a real asshole.


Because the number of posts on a forum for a webcomic is directly proportional to one's knowledge of guitars...

Anyways, I'm really only here because SputnikMusic closed down with MxTabs.  This is friendly banter by comparison to the usual thread in there, so its takin' a bit to settle down.  Plus Lummer is an ass.


How mature of you. Just because your behaviour seems to be accepted in another forum, doesn't mean it's accepted here. Besides, my impression of the Mxtabs forums was always that it was filled with the kind of people who actually believe Kirk Hammett is a good guitarist. Ie. people who know jack diddly about guitar and music in general.
Yes, that was aimed at you, poopyface. My dad is SO gonna beat up your dad!
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« Reply #68 on: 16 Jul 2006, 04:16 »

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If carvin is so hardcore awesome, why don't you just play those?!


Because I'm not an idiot who only plays one kind of guitar like you Ibanez fanboys.


ibanez fanboys? i play gibson and ibanez yeah but my respect for those guitars is nowhere near your obsession over fender.


My thoughts exactly. If i'm such a fanboy, how come I still own my Washburn, Godin and Epiphone and haven't ritually sacrificed the heathen axes on my altar to Steve Vai yet?

And you said all you owned was Fender guitars? Get real dude, you're the fanboy here, not the rest of us.
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« Reply #69 on: 16 Jul 2006, 04:19 »

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And finally, in my hattrick of post-whorage, I can only worship that comic for it's impeccable appropriateness, and flawless timing on behalf of Awkward. I might as well accept my spanking then :(
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« Reply #70 on: 16 Jul 2006, 08:55 »

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If carvin is so hardcore awesome, why don't you just play those?!


Because I'm not an idiot who only plays one kind of guitar like you Ibanez fanboys.


Why is it idiotic to play one kind of guitar?
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« Reply #71 on: 16 Jul 2006, 09:11 »

EVEN IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT
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« Reply #72 on: 16 Jul 2006, 09:35 »

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If carvin is so hardcore awesome, why don't you just play those?!


Because I'm not an idiot who only plays one kind of guitar like you Ibanez fanboys.


Why is it idiotic to play one kind of guitar?


It's not idiotic per se.. Just limiting.
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« Reply #73 on: 16 Jul 2006, 09:42 »

YOU KNOW WHAT'S ALSO LIMITING


MY WALLET



I CAN'T AFFORD MORE GUITARS TO PLAY WITH


SORRY GUYS
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« Reply #74 on: 16 Jul 2006, 09:46 »

I think the only way we can settle this is with a guitar fight to the death. Seriously.

Although, if we'll throw in a Rickenbacker it will RULE THEM.
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« Reply #75 on: 16 Jul 2006, 10:18 »

I see your Lakland and rise you a Rickenbacker 4003

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« Reply #76 on: 16 Jul 2006, 11:35 »

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If carvin is so hardcore awesome, why don't you just play those?!


Because I'm not an idiot who only plays one kind of guitar like you Ibanez fanboys.


Why is it idiotic to play one kind of guitar?


It's not idiotic per se.. Just limiting.


That's insane.

Let's say Fenders are my preferred guitars. So I'll play them, right? And because I like them so much, I have no need for any other guitars. Why is it limiting when I have no desire or requirement for any further brand of guitar?
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« Reply #77 on: 16 Jul 2006, 11:44 »

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If carvin is so hardcore awesome, why don't you just play those?!


Because I'm not an idiot who only plays one kind of guitar like you Ibanez fanboys.


Why is it idiotic to play one kind of guitar?


It's not idiotic per se.. Just limiting.


That's insane.

Let's say Fenders are my preferred guitars. So I'll play them, right? And because I like them so much, I have no need for any other guitars. Why is it limiting when I have no desire or requirement for any further brand of guitar?


To me at least, it is quite limiting. You have to step outside your comfort zone every now and then, and besides: I personally love the fact that my two main guitars are so wildly different, and the others I have are also different. It gives me more options, sonically.
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« Reply #78 on: 16 Jul 2006, 12:23 »

Well obviously, I can see why it would be limiting for some. But I'm quite happy doing whatever the hell I can with my Tele. I love trying to get weird and wonderful sounds out of it by any means.

As far as getting out of my comfort zone...I don't do that with guitar. I am quite happy with where I am as a guitarist. I get out of my comfort zone by trying new things on bass, organ, piano, or just trying a whole new instrument in a music shop.
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« Reply #79 on: 16 Jul 2006, 13:20 »

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Well obviously, I can see why it would be limiting for some. But I'm quite happy doing whatever the hell I can with my Tele. I love trying to get weird and wonderful sounds out of it by any means.

As far as getting out of my comfort zone...I don't do that with guitar. I am quite happy with where I am as a guitarist. I get out of my comfort zone by trying new things on bass, organ, piano, or just trying a whole new instrument in a music shop.


Fair enough, if that works for you then more power to you.

I for one, play Death Metal in one band and Rock'n'Roll in another, and obviously I'm gonna need some variety in my arsenal. Especially when you consider the fact that I also dabble around in all conceivable styles when I'm just messing about at home.

Not surprisingly, my seven-string does the Death Metal thing for me, and does it quite well along with all other styles in terms of sound. Also it's phenomenal playability makes it well suited for the fairly technical riffs I write for that band.

But, with my other band it's just plain ol' punky rock'n'roll in standard E, and in that style, my seven doesn't fit and that where my washburn comes in. It's a Gibson Explorer style axe which plays nicely and has a great classic rock sound to it. It also really looks the part.

By looking the part, I mean I can hang it low and still play it well. I have the seven hanging a few inches above the waist, in true prog dork fashion, and that doesn't look terribly cool if you just wanna RAWK!!1

I'm not sure if this post is very coherent, but I hope you can see my point :)
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« Reply #80 on: 16 Jul 2006, 17:42 »

Guitars are tools for making art.  If it's the right tool for the job in terms of expressing what you want to express in the manner that you want to express it then it's a good tool.  Arguing about a particular brand of guitar is like saying oil based paints are superior to watercolors.  That's simply not true if you're really into watercolors.
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« Reply #81 on: 16 Jul 2006, 23:40 »

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Guitars are tools for making art.  If it's the right tool for the job in terms of expressing what you want to express in the manner that you want to express it then it's a good tool.  Arguing about a particular brand of guitar is like saying oil based paints are superior to watercolors.  That's simply not true if you're really into watercolors.


You're absolutely right. I guess I just need to grow up and get over my "Fenders-are-bland-and-boring" pet peeve, or at least just shut up about it.
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« Reply #82 on: 17 Jul 2006, 07:23 »

On the subject of metal, metal should only ever be played on a Yavcon Custom #4, to wit:







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« Reply #83 on: 17 Jul 2006, 07:46 »

That thing can defend it's own damn self.
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« Reply #84 on: 17 Jul 2006, 09:17 »

I was going to say "that's one of the ugliest guitars I've ever seen."

But then I realised; I've seen much, much, much worse.
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« Reply #85 on: 20 Jul 2006, 08:34 »

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If carvin is so hardcore awesome, why don't you just play those?!


Because I'm not an idiot who only plays one kind of guitar like you Ibanez fanboys.




And you said all you owned was Fender guitars? Get real dude, you're the fanboy here, not the rest of us.


Dude, you're a fucking retard.  When the hell did I say I only owned Fender?  I even fucking told you about my Ibanez's.
How about Westone, Simon & Patrick, Yamaha, Teisco Del Ray, Univox, and Epiphone?  I'm pretty sure Fender doesn't make those.
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« Reply #86 on: 20 Jul 2006, 08:36 »

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If carvin is so hardcore awesome, why don't you just play those?!


Because I'm not an idiot who only plays one kind of guitar like you Ibanez fanboys.


Why is it idiotic to play one kind of guitar?


It's not idiotic per se.. Just limiting.


That's insane.

Let's say Fenders are my preferred guitars. So I'll play them, right? And because I like them so much, I have no need for any other guitars. Why is it limiting when I have no desire or requirement for any further brand of guitar?


Eventually you're gonna want a pair of 'buckers.  So you either go out and buy something with 'em, or you get another strat and shove humbuckers in it, lol.
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« Reply #87 on: 20 Jul 2006, 08:39 »

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I was going to say "that's one of the ugliest guitars I've ever seen."

But then I realised; I've seen much, much, much worse.


Dude, you should see the guitar I use for slide.  That thing looks like a fucking Jazzmaster abortion.
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« Reply #88 on: 20 Jul 2006, 09:02 »

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I see your Lakland and rise you a Rickenbacker 4003



WINNER. why? because it's a rickenbacker bass. basses always win.
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« Reply #89 on: 20 Jul 2006, 09:20 »

I would pretty much commit high treason for a Rickenbacker.
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« Reply #90 on: 20 Jul 2006, 10:00 »

Rickenbackers are sex, and they are also high on the list of "guitars I love, but why would I buy one?"

On that list:

- Gretsch
- D'Angelico
- Rickenbacker
- Any Gibson hollowbody ever.

I play too much distorted metal/rock stuff to merit one of those.

Anyway, I really love the repartee in the first part of this thread. Gibson breaks easily? Answer: buy Fender. My waffles have been roffled! Gibson and Fender are the two best known guitar brands on the planet - but they do completely different things. Gibson is known for set-neck axes with 'buckers or at least P-90s, and often a fat, crunchy sound. Exceptions here and there, but that is really their main motif.
Fender, on the other hand, is the twang-banger's brand. Lightweight bodies, single-coil pups (sometimes humbuckers, but i don't really like the ones Fender uses in the Fat Strats) and - gasp - 21 frets. That's probably my biggest turn-off with Fender guitars. The stock 21 frets. At least give me the Gibson 22 so I can bend to the 24th when I want to.

They're both great guitar makers, and I'm planning to buy a Strat sometime - but I like my LP for now.

To Khar's porcupine guitar: boo for EMG pickups. Real metal players can terrify and crush the weak christian scum with a JTM45 (or a MESA, if you would like) and a guitar with a JB in the bridge. Like, for instance, the guitar I am currently coveting - Jackson SL2H. Mmm. 24 frets, Floyd Rose, and Seymour Duncan pickups. Sex. Of course, I'm the crazy shredding guy, so I love my fast necks and whammy bar antics.

PS - Ibanez is a funny brand. I think they kind of lie about the JEMs and JS models sometimes - the trem on the guitars Satch plays looks like a Floyd, and says "Licensed Floyd Rose" on it - Edge Pro trems (the ones on the JS1200, highest commercially available model of JS) don't have that. Same with Vai's guitar. But they still say it's "100% accurate" and stuff. Go figure.
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« Reply #91 on: 20 Jul 2006, 12:17 »

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If carvin is so hardcore awesome, why don't you just play those?!


Because I'm not an idiot who only plays one kind of guitar like you Ibanez fanboys.


Why is it idiotic to play one kind of guitar?


It's not idiotic per se.. Just limiting.


That's insane.

Let's say Fenders are my preferred guitars. So I'll play them, right? And because I like them so much, I have no need for any other guitars. Why is it limiting when I have no desire or requirement for any further brand of guitar?


Eventually you're gonna want a pair of 'buckers.  So you either go out and buy something with 'em, or you get another strat and shove humbuckers in it, lol.


I'm not actually a Fender loyalist, I was just making a point. Teles are my preferred guitars, but I'm not a metal player, so I'm just going to get a Tele custom with buckers in it for any work that requires that. I hate Strats with a passion.
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« Reply #92 on: 23 Jul 2006, 06:31 »

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I was going to say "that's one of the ugliest guitars I've ever seen."

But then I realised; I've seen much, much, much worse.



...Thankyou?


I'd type out that long rant about hating quote tunnels, arguing pointlessly and having no respect for each other, but this is the first and probably last time I'll check out this thread.


Carry on bitches!
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« Reply #93 on: 23 Jul 2006, 07:12 »

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Nix that Lakland, I'm bringing this sonofagun:

I own that sucker now. So grood!


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« Reply #94 on: 23 Jul 2006, 07:36 »

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« Reply #95 on: 23 Jul 2006, 11:08 »

THIS JUST IN:

I found a Music Man 93' today, second hand, for chheeaap.
Guess who's going to probably have a new bass guys.
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« Reply #96 on: 23 Jul 2006, 11:23 »

Is there another kind? *wink wink*

Actually, I was going to buy a Rickenbacker 4003 from a dude I know, but I was too late and he sold it.
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« Reply #97 on: 23 Jul 2006, 12:02 »

I like the thick neck, it feels more comfortable.
If you want a thumbrest closer to the neck you can just add one (I know fender are selling them) but the pickup is back there for a reason.
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« Reply #98 on: 23 Jul 2006, 12:39 »

When I am playing up near the neck I just rest my thumb on the side of the neck and play from there. Is this bad bass-fu or something?
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« Reply #99 on: 23 Jul 2006, 12:54 »

You play on different parts of the bass for different tone effects, so its baisically up to each player.
Some like to play close to the neck because the tone is "thicker" (if you get the right fretless and the right gear its almost a double bass sound), but its all about personal preferences.
I think you should play on the back side (near the pickup) on the Music Man, though, I think it gives a better sound. But that's just me.

Resting your thumb on the side of the neck gets your sound "dirty" with string buzz and other noises, I usually avoid doing that.
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