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xJulian:
So, with all the people here who actually have a taste in music (this is in no way derogatory towards pop, but really, I mean an actual, personally developed taste, acquired by listening to many styles and sticking to what you like), there surely have to be some people here who like the same stuff that I do.

It's difficult to actually narrow it down. Think gothic, think darkwave, think EBM, think neoclassical, think medieval.

I'm not going to bore you with a sufficient list to outline my taste, but for a couple of tidbits: Deine Lakaien (gothic/darkwave, also known outside Germany, or so I've heard), Das Ich (Neue Deutsche Todeskunst, later electrogoth), Subway To Sally (medieval, covering folk and folk metal in their later works).

If you have ever heard of bands like ASP, Corvus Corax, Helium Vola, Letzte Instanz, Schandmaul, Tanzwut or Zeraphine, please reply if you can also let me know you're not cocky about your favorite being the most "dark" or "medieval". As in most subcultures, most people can be described as narrow-minded. I hope you're not one of them.

If you've not heard of any of those bands, go ahead anyway. I don't know about your taste, but you may be missing something. This is not about popular gothic or emo trends and their annoyances, this is actually about well thought out, well composed music. If you don't mind German lyrics, that is. I know there's a good amount of Rammstein lovers in America, so don't be shy.

FeralCats:
Well...one of my friends recently pointed me in the way of Wumpscut and Die Form. They're pretty ace. It's not the type of thing I can obsess over, but it's pretty good stuff. I like Hocico a lot more.

My tastes generally go more towards RIO and Krautrock and Jazz and Classical than electronica...at least electronica of this type.

What's interesting to me is that a lot of this music is nowhere near as dark as I thought it would be. A lot of it is actually pretty upbeat stuff...just singing about masochism and bestiality (2 things I'm not really into, no)

xJulian:

--- Quote from: FeralCats ---Well...one of my friends recently pointed me in the way of Wumpscut and Die Form. They're pretty ace. It's not the type of thing I can obsess over, but it's pretty good stuff. I like Hocico a lot more.
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I have to admit I haven't listened to either of them. I'm more into rock than electronica, it's pretty much just ASP and Das Ich (and to some extent Tanzwut and Eisbrecher) that got me into not dismissing any electronica as worthless. :) And then there are Deine Lakaien with their sometimes "experimental" music. Though while skimming the Wikipedia article about Hocico, I saw they performed at M'era Luna last year, shame I didn't see them.

--- Quote from: FeralCats ---My tastes generally go more towards RIO and Krautrock and Jazz and Classical than electronica...at least electronica of this type.
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I'm afraid I'm not into Krautrock at all... at least not into the examples given on Wikipedia, again. RIO I haven't heard anything.

Let me point out that only a very small part of the music I like is actually electronica, in fact, there's a good amount of acoustic stuff in there. If you have the time, may I suggest to try out Chamber ("L'Orchstre de Chambre Noir" is the official name, but apparently nobody uses it). "A Dead Man's Song" is their show-off title, it summarizes their style pretty well. There's the distant possibility that you may find this song where you wouldn't expect it. If you look closely, that is. ;) This style of music is what I'd refer to as neoclassical.

--- Quote from: FeralCats ---What's interesting to me is that a lot of this music is nowhere near as dark as I thought it would be. A lot of it is actually pretty upbeat stuff...just singing about masochism and bestiality (2 things I'm not really into, no)
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I'm not into gore lyrics either... I guess I'm quite sensitive. I'm used to fine-grained metaphors and lyrics the artist is actually very serious about. I guess it's somewhat like Happy Tree Friends in that regard, either you like it or you don't...

quietnow:
i'm afraid deathrock is as far as i'll go down that road.

i like 45grave, eva o., blood and roses, naked and the dead, christian death... etc.

xJulian:

--- Quote from: quietnow ---i'm afraid deathrock is as far as i'll go down that road.

i like 45grave, eva o., blood and roses, naked and the dead, christian death... etc.
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Deathrock as in "scary, creepy and angsty"? If so, it really has nothing to do with the stuff I'm talking about, apart from a few exceptions. :)

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