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Classical Music?
KharBevNor:
Yeah. It's like with Ancient Rites. One of my mates is convinced they're nazis, but they have an Isreali fan-club.
People just don't understand the whole bent of neo-folk/post-industrial music, which is to basically show you how awful all this stuff is, and to constantly re-evoke the waste and evil of the second world war, and the seductive evil of totalitarianism. It's their vocabulary.
DI6 and fucking Changes once got routed by anti-fascists in America, and I think DI6 are banned from playing in Lausanne. I seem to remember that Douglas P turned up to the press conference on that one handcuffed to Boyd Rice and Albin Julius, both dressed in Gorilla suits and swastika armbands. Then, at the show (becuase, Bizarrely, Der Bluthsarch, Boyd Rice and Fire + Ice HAD been allowed to play) a man appeared wearing Douglas's mask, then removed it, revealing himself to be Boyd Rice, who then sang an altered and extremely scathing version of C'est Un Reve. This all goes to show why neo-folk is FUCKING AWESOME.
Anyway, er, classical music. I used to actually be pretty obsessed with classical music when I was much younger, but like many of my semi-autistic youthful obsessions, I can't remember much. Nowadays I like (mainly) German, Russian and Scandinavian romantic and early 20th Century composers. Some favourites are Prokofiev, Mussorgsky, Wagner, Orff, Borodin, Grieg, Chopin, Saint-Saens, Sibelius, and a bit of the old Bach and Beethoven. I also have some CD's of gregorian chanting and whatnot that I enjoy, as well as CDs of random 'relaxing' classical pieces and film music, which I barely listen to. I generally like my classical music heavy and powerful.
Misereatur:
I read an interview with the guys who wrote Looking For Europe (a book about the history of neo-folk and other neo-folk related stuff) and they think that all of the bad press neo-folk got from groups like Antifa was responsible for getting all of the extreme right wing guys and other people with weird ideas and racist beliefs into the scene.
Also, I just started reading Heathen Harvest again, great post-industrial/neo-folk webzine.
KharBevNor:
Oh shit! You reminded me, I still haven't sent any shit to the guy at Heathen Harvest.
I might as well wait until I have the first Ill Met By Moonlight EP done now.
Yeah, I've read Looking for Europe. I agree with that totally. I mean, it's a pure bloody joke. Look at the core members of the neo-folk scene. Douglas Pearce is gay, and he and Tony Wakeford played Anti-Nazi League and Rock Against Racism rallies when they were in Crisis. Dave Tibet is a demented, cat-obsessed former buddhist turned apocalyptic and extremely esoteric Christian. And so on. The closest thing to a nazi in the inner circle of neo-folk is Boyd Rice, who's stated that he doesn't mind racism because it leads to people killing each other, and anything that reduces the planets population is good by him. They're a hell of a load of wierdos, but they're all either socialists, greens or libertarians. They're part of the same diaspora that gave us Psychic TV (I think Genesis P Orridges surgically implanted breasts deflect most nazi criticism away from him) and Coil (the band who did an AIDS charity single). All the Nazi crap is just patently ridiculous to anyone who takes a moment to do any research, and yet people swallow it up! I know goth zines that simply bin neo-folk or martial industrial recordings sent to them for reviewing. It's dumb as hell.
Misereatur:
Problam is people around here freak out a little too much when they see Pagan symbols and scream racism, insted of just looking into stuff before condeming them. Mainly because you cant tell if the groups are using the symbols like most neo-folk bands and artists do, or that they're actually racist and have nothing to do with neo-folk (like the National Alliance that uses the Algiz rune).
It's tricky getting people to see that neo-folk artists are just trying to create their own utopia while criticising both the left and the right.
KharBevNor:
Yeah. I hear the new Sol Invictus albums going to have something of a Luddite theme, btw.
Also, is it really because of the pagan symbols? I'd always thought the main reason was radical misinterpretations of songs like C'est Un Reve, Hitler as Kali, Lifebooks, Herr, Nun Lab in Frieden, A Song For Douglas After He's Dead, Looking For Europe, Sarabande Oratoria, Rose Clouds of Holocaust, Power Has A Fragrance, etc. etc.
If it's pagan symbols, then my patch jacket should confuse the shit out of them, between the sunwheels, runes, triskeles, hexagrams and other heathen and occult symbols, and the gay pride, pro-trade union, pro-immigration, anti-tory, anti-nuclear and anti-nazi badges and patches. But then, I do try and keep it deliberately somewhat confusing.
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