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Viking/Folk Metal
David_Dovey:
--- Quote from: Borondir on 19 Oct 2006, 22:55 ---Maybe because Borknagar is really neither folk metal or viking metal. One kind of metal they are is awesome metal though! ;) Also sort of progressive/
post-black.
And Kveldssanger isn't metal at all. No amplified instruments=not metal. Just because Ulver made one or two metal albums
doesn't mean they are always going to be a metal band. Of course Kveldssanger (and all of Ulver's output) is good regardless
of what genre it is.
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Well fuck. I sit corrected. If you guys need me I'll be on Wikipedia and Encyclopedia Metallum
Felix_:
--- Quote from: David_Dovey on 20 Oct 2006, 01:05 ---
--- Quote from: Borondir on 19 Oct 2006, 22:55 ---Maybe because Borknagar is really neither folk metal or viking metal. One kind of metal they are is awesome metal though! ;) Also sort of progressive/
post-black.
And Kveldssanger isn't metal at all. No amplified instruments=not metal. Just because Ulver made one or two metal albums
doesn't mean they are always going to be a metal band. Of course Kveldssanger (and all of Ulver's output) is good regardless
of what genre it is.
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Well fuck. I sit corrected. If you guys need me I'll be on Wikipedia and Encyclopedia Metallum
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One could very well make the arguement that albums like "The Olden Domain" and "The Archaic Course" are both very much within the viking vein (unless of course you believe that all "viking metal" has to have pan flutes, horned helms, and strings/accordians). The way I see it is if a band like Enslaved, with their earlier releases such as "Eld" and "Blodhemn" can be considered "viking metal", and I most surely do consider them just that, then at least the first three Borknagar records could be considered likewise. The distinctions between viking metal and black metal, IMO, are very small, and really..the only thing that a band or artist would have to do is to have viking-based lyrical matter to become "viking metal" instead of writing songs about burning churches and invoking Satawnz demons out of your arse while fucking dead nuns,..or something.
Felix_:
--- Quote from: KharBevNor on 05 Oct 2006, 08:19 ---Already been done, as Scytale said.
Brilliant album.
Also, check out 'Intercourse and Lust' by Abigail for some Yakuza metal (Hail Yakuza!). Actually, just check out Abigail, they fucking slay. 'Ultimate Unholy Death' is pretty sweet as well (Beer! Metal! Sex!)
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Abigail kick ass! So does Barbatos!!
Scytale:
Manegarm are another really good viking band. Their album Vredens Tid is really good.
Borondir:
--- Quote from: David_Dovey on 20 Oct 2006, 01:05 ---Well fuck. I sit corrected. If you guys need me I'll be on Wikipedia and Encyclopedia Metallum
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Sorry if I came across as being snobby. I was just offering my personal opinion on their genres based
on how I understand common usage of terms. Other knowledgeable metal fans will respectfully come to different conclusions.
Encyclopedia Mettalum actually lists them as progressive folk/viking. *shrug*
I have always thought of early Borknagar as just symphonic black metal. Over the course of their career they have moved in a progressive direction.
I'd say they have some folk elements, but those elements are integrated into their progressive leanings. They did have some sort of Viking aspects on Olden Domain, but I wouldn't say they were enough to call them a Viking band.
As I've mentioned before, this is why I think Viking metal shouldn't be thought of as a actual genre, but as a style bands from different genres play in. Folk metal has a little more usefulness as a genre label, but folk metal bands still play some genre of metal with folk stylings.
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