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Ozymandias:

--- Quote from: Inlander on 24 Oct 2006, 12:59 ---I've gotta admit, I never watched enough Babylon 5 to get the impression of the over-arching, five-season long storyline.  Mainly because every time I watched it, everything about it from the cringingly awful acting to the cliche-ravaged dialogue to the way below-par C.G.I. made it absolutely excruciating for me to watch.  I mean I applaud whatsisname's effort in pumping the thing out and sticking to his guns and seeing the whole thing through and all - but for all his effort, the end product was just excrement.  I mean, really.

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That was my thought the first time I tried to watch it. I couldn't get halfway through season 1.

Then, I decided to go back and force myself to suffer through at least another season, to see if I was wrong. I ended up watching it through to the end. And, honestly, all of that stuff is still there throughout the rest of the show(though it gets better with each season), but it seems so goddamned irrelevant compared to the story. It could have been a lot better, but TV is also better for it having existed at all. Without B5, Paramount wouldn't have made DS9 and without DS9, Ron Moore would've never gotten the greenlight to make BSG.

And if that's only as far as you've gotten in BSG, I envy you. You get to see what's coming up for the first time and I'm jealous, like when I show friends Firefly for the first time.

Inlander:
Mark7, I can't help but compare the C.G.I. to that of the Star Trek of the same era, which (to my eye) was infinitely superior.? I mean, when you look at any external shot of a ship in Babylon 5 the thing that immediately comes to mind is "oh look, C.G.I.".? It's just too obvious.? With, say, Star Trek: Next Gen, I was always able to suspend disbelief at least a little.

Ozymandias: I really can't foresee myself experiencing whatever full glory Babylon 5 may have in store.? The things I ranted about in my above post are absolute deal-breakers for me.? Especially the dialogue. I must confess I haven't ever seen a full-season: I've seen odd episodes from all of the seasons, and found the standard to be universally abysmal.

Okay, sorry, I'll try my hardest not to hi-jack this thread from now on, I just feel as a sci-fi fan that the adulation of Babylon 5 that one frequently experiences sorely needs to be balanced out!

Mark7:
I'm pretty sure Star Trek:TNG/DS9/Whatever was still using miniatures at that time.  And, besides that, the difference in budgets between the shows was pretty much night and day.

nihilist:
And what did JMS do after B5?  Jeremiah...  Too bad that got shitcanned, was really well done.

BSG is rocking season three something fierce...  Oh man.  Weekends can't come fast enough.

Ozymandias:

--- Quote from: Mark7 on 24 Oct 2006, 17:18 ---I'm pretty sure Star Trek:TNG/DS9/Whatever was still using miniatures at that time.  And, besides that, the difference in budgets between the shows was pretty much night and day.

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Which is exactly why B5 is dated and DS9 isn't. Star Trek didn't start using CGI heavily until Voyager. B5 tried to do it earlier than the rest of TV and it suffers because of it.

Fun fact: Much of B5's SFX team would later go on to be part of Zoic, the company that does CGI for BSG and Firefly!

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