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Misereatur:
Playing and writing in non-standart time signatures is just fun and interesting, more then playing in 4/4 anyway. The trick is knowing how to count them right. Counting 7/4 like 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 is rather confusing, while counting them as 1-2-3-4-1-2-3 feels more natural.  Like counting 6/8 as 1-2-3-1-2-3 and not like 1-2-3-4-5-6.

ALoveSupreme:
I always counted 6/8 one 2 3 four 5 6
seemed to work, and maintained the integrity of the signature.

timehat:

--- Quote from: Misereatur on 10 Oct 2006, 10:34 ---Playing and writing in non-standart time signatures is just fun and interesting, more then playing in 4/4 anyway. The trick is knowing how to count them right. Counting 7/4 like 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 is rather confusing, while counting them as 1-2-3-4-1-2-3 feels more natural.  Like counting 6/8 as 1-2-3-1-2-3 and not like 1-2-3-4-5-6.

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I think that depends on the actual groove. You can have a 7/4 rhythm that's 4+3 or 3+4 or possibly 2+3+2 or one that's actually divided evenly down the measure due to an offbeat accent.

Misereatur:
What I was trying to say is that every player needs to find a way to count those time signatures in a way that wont be confusing to him. I mean, if I'll play somthing in 7/4 and count them as 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 I would'nt be able to get past the first bar. Counting 7/4 like 1-2-3-4-1-2-3 (or even 1-2-1-2-1-2-3) is easier to me.
Also, timehat, unless the band leader/composer/song writer tells me otherwise, that's how I'll count 7/4 (1-2-3-4-1-2-3). Same with 6/8 (1-2-3-1-2-3).I can count those time signatures in loads of other ways, it all depends on what I as a player feel is right for the song, or what the composer decided.

Slick:
Dave Brubeck is quite something. I don't have it, but a friend played a recording of him playing two different melodies in two different times with his two different hands.

I peronally write in 6/8 and phase in and out of 1,2,3,4,5,6 and 1,2,3,4,5,6. Or go from 6/8 to something like 2/(8/3). I only realised I was doing it after re-listening and mastering a recorded track I did.

On a related note, I recommend everyone watch the movie ravenous. A little diturbing, but it has an excellent soundtrack in funny times.

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