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elcapitan:
Fair enough. My own personal dislike of VB aside, though, I think that the extra effort involved in learning C or C++ is more than repaid by the knowledge of data structures and good programming practise that it forces you to have.

Sure, if you want some dodgy form-driven macro, VB is the way forward. If you ever want to code something and be taken seriously, you probably want to use a serious language.

As for Red Hat and the pay distros, IMHO the difference is the support, not the package itself. Ever been on the Gentoo forums? Problems get solved, sure, but in a very haphazard "this works for me, YMMV" way. Red Hat, on the other hand, actually has a good support system and fixes are well integrated into later releases. Several propositions for the commercialisation of the open source model take this exact tack - provide high quality software free, but make people pay for high quality support. Seems to be working for certain markets.

öde:
Ubuntu has awesome community support, and documentation.

I find it's a lot better than windows if you spend 5 minute looking something up instead of clicking everywhere.

Scytale:
I tried Gentoo for about 3 months, got sick of it pretty fast. Only thing it had going was awesome hardware support, not suprising since you have to compile you're own kernel to install it though. The Gentoo How Too's are very well written as well. i reccomend reading there stuff even on another distro, really help me get stuff like XGL working in FC5.

I've been using Fedora since Core 2, best distro around IMO. I've never had rpm dependancy issues using it. The people who complain about that are just jaded Debian users  :-P. Red Hat 8 yeah that was bad for dependencies  but YUM has made everything nice now. I even got my non technical sister into Fedora after she saw me using core 5.

if you are using Fedora and need some help I suggest www.fedoraforum.org I post on there occansionally and there are a lot of  other very helpful people there. The IRC channel is also very good.

I agree when it comes to langauges learning  C is invaluable.

nihilist:
I've attempted to use Linux on the desktop, but at the end of the day, it is just shit.

öde:
I tried to look at mikes post in a positive way, but at the end of the day, it is just shit.

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