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A word for the remaining relatives of the late Cliff Burton

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Narr:
I agree that ...And Justice For All was the last good album they had.  Ironically, it's after the reason I like the band died, but their raw anger at his passing fueled their best album.

RIP, Cliff.

Felix_:

--- Quote from: tommydski on 22 Oct 2006, 15:29 ---that's an interesting theory you've hit on, sir.
you have to admit a lot of greats departed this mortal coil early rather than submitting to gradual stagnation. hendrix or coltrane for example.

i didn't hate burton, i thought he was doing some interesting stuff in an otherwise pedestrian band. 'pulling teeth' is probably the only thing i'd ever listen to by choice. the fact is that his death saved him from becoming as embarrassing as his band-mates have. for that he truly did contribute to the music world at large.

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Just for clarification purposes I completely disagree that deceased musicians, especially those who checked out early contribute more or have contributed more than other musicians that are alive and well and still recording music. :P hehe

I agree that death probably saved him from becoming as "embarrassing" as his former band-mates have become, but who's to say what Metallica would've eventually turned into had Burton never died in that auto accident anyways? Not only that, but I wouldn't discount the efforts of James and Kirk who were good players once upon a time. Burton did contribute to music, namely heavy metal, if not in his style then in his legacy, but I still could never believe that he was the 'greatest ever' at bass or anything ridiculous like that.  :-P

jeph:
Am I the only person on the planet who thinks early Metallica is incredibly bland and crappy?

I hear all of their pre-Black-Album records discussed in such reverent tones, yet every time I've listened to them I've found myself horribly bored after the first five minutes of repetitive look-how-many-different-ways-we-can-resolve-on-E guitar riffing.

Also Lars is a fucking terrible metal drummer.

Storm Rider:
I agree with essentially everything you said, actually. I mean, their first four albums are listenable at least, but there are about a dozen other thrash bands that are far better if you can get past the occasional terrible sound quality from the albums where the band blew the production budget on heroin.

But at the same time, it's a pretty jarring difference. It's like listening to In Flames' last three albums after listening to say, Lunar Strain.

Felix_:

--- Quote from: tommydski on 22 Oct 2006, 17:32 ---artists can become so terrible that it tarnishes whatever previous heights they rose to.
a handful of us on this forum have a running joke where we pretend dylan, bowie and the stones all died in the 70s because they have become so woeful that the general consensus is that it would be better if they had died. think of someone like rod stewart. at one point he was spoken of in terms of reverence, indeed his first four solo albums were considered masterpieces by many. but what's the first image that comes to mind when you think of rod stewart? those fucking leopard skin trousers and the anaemic thumping of 'do you think i'm sexy'.

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I agree that artists can become "terrible so that it tarnishes whatever previous heights they rose to". And many would argue that "Do You Think I'm Sexy" was the smartest career move he ever made, although I find it less than desirable. I've never been a fan, nor a fan of Bowie or the Stones, although I do enjoy Dylan.....even some of his most recent material. I only wish that he'd don leopard skin trousers for his next live tour. ;)

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