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Johnny C:

--- Quote from: Jimmy Balls-O-Steel on 05 Nov 2006, 01:13 ---'Cause the 80's suck.

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Um.



I can't emphasize it enough, people.

*Sights*:
Can anyone recomend something along the lines of Jaga Jazzist? I don't know exactly what to call it...Experimental? Nu-Jazz?
You know, instrumental jazz of that sort. Not necessarily with electronic stuff or an hour of improvisation, but you get my drift...right?

Also, I know it's not the best thread to ask for this, but is there a name for that kind of music (always striked as some kind of jazz) that gets played when the plan is explained/during the stealing on heist and crime films? That soft, sly, "oh we are so cool" kind of music.

KharBevNor:

--- Quote from: The Eyeball Kid on 06 Nov 2006, 03:30 ---Are there any good record label compilations for stuff like metal and good hip-hop?

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Most labels have samplers of some sort (Nuclear Blast have fucking tonnes of them), but I'm not sure whether I'd really recommend any of them. There's a few 'classic' metal comps, mainly for their historical value: the first 'Death...Is Just the Beginning' and 'Scandinavian Metal Attack' instantly spring to mind, but they mainly concentrate on promoting newer artists, and, to be honest, I can't really think of many metal labels that have a stable strong enough to fill a whole CD with great tracks. Some of Nuclear Blasts comps are OK, but I wouldn't really recommend any of them. Spinefarm/Spikefarm have a few decent samplers. A lot of compilations labels release are cover albums though: a tribute to this, that or the other (In Black Marks case, on 'A Black Mark Tribute' vols 1 and 2 a tribute to whatever the fuck the bands wanted, with some pretty interesting results: Depeche Mode, The Police, Cream, The Beatles, Autopsy, Twisted Sister and the Sex Pistols all make appearances, some of them several times). Some of these compilations are pure dreck, some of them are pretty good (A Tribute to the Beast is quite fab), but they're not really that good for finding out what bands actually sound like, because they're not playing their own songs. Fenriz has released a rather good intro to true BM: 'Fenriz Presents...The Best of Old School Black Metal' on Peaceville, and I believe he's threatening to release a thrash compilation at some point as well. I'd actually recommend that for two reasons: one, it's got some quite unusual tracks (both in terms of obscurity and seeing them on a compilation. Fenriz is probably the only man alive who could have got permission to include Burzum's 'Ea, Lord of the Depths') and two, the liner notes are fucking hilarious. Fenriz spends half the time unnecessarily bolding words like this and the rest of the time bragging about how he got this demo of off Euronymus three days after Dead shot himself or that he actually rehearsed this track with Varg Vikernes one time etc. etc.

Really though, what you need to get you in to metal is just some good albums. What sort of stuff were you thinking of? You want something more listenable, or something more interesting?

The Eyeball Kid:
I'm thinking listenable.
Bonus points for music that convinces me to go back to playing Dungeons and Dragons. Seriously.
So... listenable (like i said, i like Led Zep and Black Sabbath, so i'm not allergic to guitars) or hilarious/interesting songs about pirates and vikings.
The Decemberists and the Fiery Furnaces sing about pirates, but they are not metal

i've been reading that book about the metal church burnings and i'm confused... how do you go from "i'm going to name myself after the Orcish word for 'darkness' to 'and then kill my friend?'"

KharBevNor:
Varg called himself Grishnack and named his band Burzum as a gesture to his own interpretation of Lord of the Rings, which is a slight twist on the 'misunderstood Mordor' idea, and ties in with his Nazi beliefs. Basically, Varg thinks the orcs drew from the idea of Scandinavian pagans and that Tolkien was writing about the victory of Christianity over heathenism. So, he used orcish as a little reference to that idea. Plus, there's the nice element of a 'secret', if you get what it means. Finally, it's a fucking cool word and it somehow greatly increases the profoundity of the statement: calling a band 'Darkness', as we all by now know, is ridiculous. It's too naive. 'Burzum' has a darker, more powerful ring to it as a word, and the act of translation somehow distances it from being silly. Because it is a profound mission statement if you actually go and try and do it. Nothing to do with Varg was a joke.

The idea of Sauron and co as maybe the good guys isn't unique to Burzum incidentally, there's a fantastic Running Wild song with a similiar idea and lots of killer broken English:

"A shoal of the knights of torture
Are hunting a witch to the dell
Sullen shades are raiding their squad
Church's minions fell
A black knight leads through the mire
And in Mordor she finds a new life
A life without pain and torment
No murder, no lies

Rancour, against all raiders
Beware, if you're renegade's hunter
Watch out in slough's haze
Vigilance, 'cause death waits
Recourse, to the traced
Be calm, they'll give you shelter
Restless, they fight for freedom
Never, they don't let you fall

Mordor"

(Running Wild-Mordor)

Running Wild might be a good place to start. Roughly 95% of their songs are about pirates. You'll probably want to start with the albums 'Under Jolly Roger' and 'Death or Glory', possibly the live 'Ready for Boarding' as well. I also can't see you getting away without getting 'Advance and Vanquish' by 3 Inches of Blood: it pushes serious metal as close to the descent into Spinal Tap as possible without actually crossing over, and it is simply a bitch of an album: I don't see how it is possible to dislike tracks like 'Axes of Evil', 'Deadly Sinners', 'Destroy the Orcs' and 'Fear on the Bridge'.  Other things you may want to check out:

Candlemass - 'Epicus Doomicus Metallicus'
Cathedral - 'The Carnival Bizarre'
Danzig - 'Danzig' and 'Danzig II: Lucifuge'
Iron Maiden - 'Number of the Beast',  'Powerslave', 'Seventh Son of a Seventh Son' (probably the poppiest metal album that is really any good)
Judas Priest - 'British Steel' and 'Painkiller'
King Diamond - 'Abigail', 'The Graveyard', 'House of God'
Mercyful Fate - 'Melissa' and 'Don't Break the Oath' (these are often called Black Metal, but thats really only for the image and subject matter)
Nightwish - 'Angels Fall First'
Skyclad - 'The Answer Machine?', 'Folkemon', 'Irrational Anthems'
Therion - 'Theli', 'Lemuria', 'Vovin'

Nice varied selection completely off the top of my head. Should keep you going for a bit.

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