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livingthelie:
yeah, pretty much what i believe.  the entire term "hardcore" can and is overused.  but i still use it for lack of a better label (and please don't anyone chime in with some tired 'why do you need to label yourself' comment.  i don't care) and will continue to label myself in that way.  btw, i LOVE modern life is war, and hope conspiracy.  and converge continue to be just fucking fantastic.

and crotch rot, yeah, i live in victoria, bc, canada.  about as northwest as you can get without being in the yukon.

beat mouse:
i've been in a love-hate relationship with hardcore for a while now, because while i simply cannot deny my love for so many hardcore bands (admittedly hailing from new england moreso than the northwest) i fucking LOATHE the scene that comes with it. the northwest scene generally bores me, and while there could be a few good bands creeping out once in a while, they get so overexposed to me that when i hear what the bass player had for dinner last night from 14 people that dont even know him, i just cant bring myself to go to their shows or listen to their music.

I also hate northwest hardcore because i think FSU is a complete joke and everytime a friend of mine brings them up I try to remind them that FSU is a scummy gang that deals coke, and not in fact a bunch of friends who stand united.

Rizzo:
Let's see... I'm a huge fan of Tragedy, From Ashes Rise, Ramallah, Comeback Kid, Modern Life is War, Converge, Shai Hulud and The Bronx. Plus there are plenty of local hardcore bands who I could pimp.

Scytale:
Hmm to be honest I'm not hugely into Hardcore, Refused is about the only HC band I listen to regularly and I really only listen to "Shape of Punk to Come", that album just seems to  click, decent vocals, good lyrics and excellent riffs.

A lot of my friends in Canberra are heaps into hardcore, whenever I visit my parents I'll ususally go to a show with them, a must admit the music is a lot better live then on cd. They are all into Australian shit mainly, stuff like "Embodiment 12:14" "Parkway Drive" and "I Killed the Prom Queen". They've tried to get me into bands like "Thursday", "Ringworm", "Shai Hulud" (probably because of the dune reference :P) and "Most Precious Blood", but I'm not a fan at all.

Some of the 80's "thrashy" stuff like DRI, SOD, MOD and that sort of thing I don't mind, not sure how "hardcore" they are though.

livingthelie:

--- Quote from: beat mouse on 12 Nov 2006, 10:24 ---i've been in a love-hate relationship with hardcore for a while now, because while i simply cannot deny my love for so many hardcore bands (admittedly hailing from new england moreso than the northwest) i fucking LOATHE the scene that comes with it. the northwest scene generally bores me, and while there could be a few good bands creeping out once in a while, they get so overexposed to me that when i hear what the bass player had for dinner last night from 14 people that dont even know him, i just cant bring myself to go to their shows or listen to their music.

I also hate northwest hardcore because i think FSU is a complete joke and everytime a friend of mine brings them up I try to remind them that FSU is a scummy gang that deals coke, and not in fact a bunch of friends who stand united.

--- End quote ---

...except that FSU was founded in, and still based in, boston.  SOOOOO yeah.  i guess new england sucks too.

but, your right.  generalities aside, there are problems with the hardcore scene.  thank god the indie rock scene and the hip hop scene and the punk rock scene are such shining examples of ethics, standards, and openness.

oops, wait, no, they're just as bad.

fact is, any scene youre in is just as bad as you make it.  simply standing on the sidelines and doing nothing will not make a scene better.  if you really love hardcore, but hate the way kids act, then jump in, put in your two cents, and do something to make a positive difference.  otherwise, don't tell me how much my scene sucks.  because i'm doing the best i can to make it better, and hearing that from someone kinda makes it harder to do that.

please refer to suicide files song "i hate you" for a more concise version of what i just said.

/rant

p.s.  but yeah, FSU sucks.  no question of that.

(edited for spelling)

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