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hardcore appreciation thread
Dimmukane:
I think I mentioned Radiation 4. They've only got one album out, it's a sort of mesh between tech death and hardcore. Actually, I think they're no longer together. The album should be somewhere on slsk though.
livingthelie:
--- Quote from: !!!CPAOI!!! on 16 Nov 2006, 21:20 ---I went to a local hardcore show with a friend and the following happened:
We were in Zaxby's getting something to eat, and these two dudes come in. They are both wearing screen-printed button down shirts, obscenely tight vests, and nut hugging jeans and have their nails painted. It's pretty obvious they're going to the show. We got there, and they were pretty easy to find (it was a tiny venue). Fifteen minutes later, I saw them make their way to the back and leave. Later that night we went to IHOP and they were there with some other people. One of these people asks them if they went to the show, and the dude's all like "oh yeah it was fucking fantastic!."
I recognize that this in no way represents the entire hardcore scene or could be used to paint all hardcore fans the same color, but shit like that would not happen if hardcore weren't becoming a "just peel the wrapper and enjoy" identity for lost, self-concious teenagers. The genre is producing some decent bands right now, but the vast majority aren't going to leave a single fingerprint on musical history and you won't care about them in ten years.
I definitely support those bands that are pushing the whole thing forward and seeing what it's capable of producing, that I can respect. On that note, maybe somebody following this thread can suggest some good modern hardcore/post-hardcore that will change my perception of the genre.
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yeah, this is pretty much the problem (as far as i see it) with most "scenes" in general. my scene (victoria, bc) tends to not have that, but then were just to damn small. we tend to push kids like that out. the bigger scenes, though, have that "95%, 5%" ratio that khar and dimmukane were talking about. which, as pointed out earlier, is pretty much what you find in any scene. like khar said, most of the hardcore kids i know and meet, i get along with fantastically...which is completely overshadowed by the fact that i tend not to talk to/hang out with asshole hardcore kids. so my friends and i make up the 5%. which sucks. bah. this can go on forever. lets just get to the point. people blow. doesn't matter what kind of music or fashion youre into. they just suck.
and as for good modern hardcore:
suicide file
modern life is war
most precious blood
where eagles dare
tragedy
the answer
vanguard
champion
betrayed
the list goes on. try those guys out for starters. they're the "fuck you and your elitist bullshit" type hardcore.
p.s. i had no idea BNO were on ferret music. of course, i tend to ignore them/want to kill them. so i might have just repressed the whole thing. and remembering never can suck a fat dick. sierously. i'm saying that as someone who's not only vegan, but straightedge. fuck you guys. you make my life harder to live.
ALoveSupreme:
BNO is pretty good fun, but they wouldn't really be a hardcore band if I had to classify them in any way.
As far as the black nail shit goes, I still don't consider that part of the "hardcore" "scene" probably in the same way Tommy doesn't consider the new wave of 'emo' "emo". Even if that's what everyone is doing and its maybe recognized as the trend, I still think it's bullshit propegated by teen-bopper hardcore/metalcore kids that don't actually know anything and just on the whole suck at life.
...or we can just relate it to the 95% to 5% deal that 101010101100101 brought up, which I supoose is just as valid.
a pack of wolves:
--- Quote from: livingthelie on 17 Nov 2006, 01:43 ---
and as for good modern hardcore:
suicide file
modern life is war
most precious blood
where eagles dare
tragedy
the answer
vanguard
champion
betrayed
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Admittedly I haven't heard a couple of these bands but to me this list sums up the problem with hardcore these days, that things are becoming tired and repetitive. Even Tragedy, the one band there that I actually like, don't break any new ground. I can't think of a single current band that really is pushing things forward. There are a few that I love (La Quiete, Das Oath, Submission Hold, The Dauntless Elite etc) but they're either just doing long-established styles extremely well or they made their innovations some time back. There's nothing wrong with any individual band doing that, but just a few years ago I could have reeled off a fair few names that were pushing the envelope. Maybe not massively, but there was something definitely new to their sounds. Now I can't think of one, and a lot of the people who were in those innovative bands aren't playing hardcore anymore.
livingthelie:
hm. you know an argument for that can be made. however, and i may be blasted to hell by the almighty music gods for saying this, but i really don't care if a band pushes the envelope or not. take most precious blood. i love them. they are great (in my opinion). are they anything new? nope. are they damn good, and fun to listen to? yes. do they make me happy when i listen to them? yes. do they do what they do, because they love it, and not because they wanna be rich and famous? yup. then who cares if they're innovative? don't get me wrong, innovative bands are necessary for any genre to survive. however, i don't use that as my only criteria. honestly, as long i love to hear what a band is making, i'll listen to them. in the end, i love what i love. no questions, no caveats.
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