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hardcore appreciation thread
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Post-hardcore is supposed to be a catchall term for anyone who takes the basic aesthetic or cultural ideology of hardcore and pushes it in an artsier or more musically diverse direction. Blood Brothers, for example, borrow a lot from hardcore but use two dedicated vocalists at different pitches, extremely diverse instrumentation and routinely crib from odd sources. It's different enough from the hardcore template to qualify.
a pack of wolves:
--- Quote from: livingthelie on 18 Nov 2006, 02:42 ---oh for sure (except that MPB are, in fact, amazing).? the problem is, whenever a hardcore band does something different, they're labeled "post-hardcore" or something equally pretentious, and we lose them to tragic haircuts and tight jeans.? i give you the blood brothers, as an example.?
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That is a depressing fact, and people often seem very eager to claim something has moved beyond hardcore when in reality it's done no such thing. It doesn't always happen though. Canvas were always thought of as a hardcore band, and so were Orchid.
Rizzo:
Yeah, I think it's pretty subjective.
I would consider Converge posthardcore because their sound has moved beyond hardcore and their lyrics tend to be more emotional than your average hardcore band. I also include Modern Life Is War (probably unfairly) and Circle Takes the Square (more fairly termed screamo).
Then again most genres are quite subjective.
Bands like MLIW are doing amazing things with hardcore and it's not necessarily "postifying" it.
Ernest:
I don't know a whole lot about hardcore, but I saw Sick of It All open for the Dropkick Murphys. They were alright, and really fucking loud. Like, the Dropkick Murphys sounded like mice after them.
I also like Refused, and The Fall of Troy *runs, hands over head*
ALoveSupreme:
obviously anyone who knows anything likes Refused.
The Fall of Troy have some pretty great qualities. Their guitarist is ridiculously skilled, and for being pretty poppy, they have some good tunes.
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