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Johnny C · « **on:** 14 Dec 2006, 13:01 »

Okay guys.

-Laptop repaired
-New semester coming up
-Boring classes anticipated

Help me out here. I have SNES and NES emulators so now I need to know what I should get.

On a completely different note, I'm stoked for getting a Wii because it means I'll have access to some awesome virtual console action. Shame about Rare because that means I'll probably never get to play Perfect Dark for the Nintendo 64 ever again.

Narr · « **Reply #1 on:** 14 Dec 2006, 13:13 »

www.zsnes.com

The place that introduced me to the internet. Also a good place to go to talk to emulator nerds about suggestions. Note: Asking for ROM images will get your banned.

Storm Rider · « **Reply #2 on:** 14 Dec 2006, 14:04 »

Just because Rare is owned by Microsoft now doesn't mean that none of the Rare games will ever appear on the VC. The Donkey Kong Country games are already coming, because Nintendo owns the Donkey Kong intellectual property and thus Rare was functioning as a second party instead of a third party in that series. Perfect Dark and both Banjo-Kazooie games are possible, but Microsoft would definitely have to be compensated and that might be too much for Nintendo to stomach.

I would be extremely surprised if Goldeneye ever made it, because not only does Microsoft own Rare now but Activision also owns the Bond license, so Nintendo would have to negotiate with both of those publishers, and after giving them their cut it probably just wouldn't be economically feasible.

But yeah, the Virtual Console will probably result in even more of my money flowing into Nintendo's pockets. Especially for the SNES and Genesis games, because I never actually owned either of those consoles. I've played a few SNES games over emulators, but that probably won't stop me from spending more money impulsively, because that is what I do when it comes to video games.

Dimmukane · « **Reply #3 on:** 14 Dec 2006, 18:24 »

They should totally release packs of games on DVD discs or something. Anyways, you can probably find a massive torrent or something online with a bunch of games. I'm partial to the Soul Blazer-Illusion of Gaia-Terranigma trilogy. Secret of Mana is also time-consuming.

Splunkle · « **Reply #4 on:** 14 Dec 2006, 20:01 »

Start with all the classics, and go from there!

From the big N, you want all the Mario, Metroid and Zelda games. The holy trinity, as such. Except maybe Metroid 2... wasn't that a Gameboy game or something? Also, you should totally get Earthbound, because it is indeed a fucking awesome game.

Moving onto Square: Final Fantasys! Grab 'em all, they should keep you heaps occupied for a while. Also, Chrono Trigger, in case you have been hiding under a rock, is awesome. As are the Mana games (known in Japan as Seikun Densetsu. I think I spelt that right). Seikun Densetsu 3 was never realeased in English, but a bunch fans translated it. There should a be a ROM of it at your favorite ROM site.

There are a bunch load more, but I thought I would start with the obvious ones! Also, Its late and I must sleep! so if the list is still lacking tommorow I shall add more!

Will · « **Reply #5 on:** 14 Dec 2006, 21:20 »

www.emuparadise.org has some good emulators. The Genesis emu is pretty great; also I have a pretty decent Playstation emulator, if you want it feel free to PM me or hit me up on AIM, and I can send it to you.

Brian Majestic · « **Reply #6 on:** 14 Dec 2006, 21:54 »

SNES: Zombies Ate My Neighbo(u)rs.

DO IT DO IT DO IT

Storm Rider · « **Reply #7 on:** 15 Dec 2006, 13:48 »

I don't have anything in particular against emulation; it's how I played Final Fantasy 6 and Chrono Trigger the first time. But I really like the Virtual Console: It's guaranteed perfect emulation of bunches of really good games, at pretty affordable prices. One of my problems with emulators is that playing console games with a keyboard always feels a bit awkward. With the Classic Controller or even a Gamecube controller, it just feels better. Not to mention I don't liken emulation to downloading music; because I actually don't mind giving game publishers money like I do with record labels.

For those that are curious: The list of released and announced VC games for North America and Europe.

Even though all releases so far have been first party Nintendo/Sega/Hudson games except for Solomon's Key, it looks like third parties are jumping on board with the service pretty rapidly. Most major publishers that were around during those eras (Capcom, Konami, Square, etc.) have already declared plans to bring games to the VC.

Sorry for turning this into the Virtual Console thread.

thegreatbuddha · « **Reply #8 on:** 15 Dec 2006, 14:21 »

Get yourself a controller if you dont have one. A $20 logitech rumblepad will cover you for everything from NES games to PSX games.

ZSNES, JNES, ePSXe, Genecyst, and Project 64 are all good emulators for their respective systems.

As far as games, your best bet is to BT them. Every game made for the SNES & NES will cost you just over 2GB of space, and its much easier to get them that way than to dl them one at a time from spyware-infected emu sites.

thepugs · « **Reply #9 on:** 15 Dec 2006, 22:29 »

Games to so get for the SNES:
Mortal Kombat
Donkey Kong
Mega Man
Castlevania
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

Get the good games of each of these, of course. For example, get TMNT: Turtles in Time, rather than the fighting game.

I would also recommend getting a controller, particularly if you're going to play N64 or Playstation games. It's just awkward without a controller.

Catfish_Man · « **Reply #10 on:** 15 Dec 2006, 23:06 »

Lufia 2 for the SNES (and Zelda:LttP of course)

guywithoutsocks · « **Reply #11 on:** 15 Dec 2006, 23:33 »

Ooo, good choices. Lufia 2 had some weak graphics by 16-bit standards, but the puzzles were really great. Plus, I don't know how many hours of my life I wasted in that bonus dungeon.

Also for SNES:
Gargoyle's Quest
Mega Man X series (if you're into them)
Battletoads (if you need thumb blisters)
Gradius III

Narr · « **Reply #12 on:** 16 Dec 2006, 01:31 »

I am not going to suggest all the stuff you already know you love.

I am going to suggest what the real beauty of emulation is: Fan translated ROMs of games that were never released in the United States.

Seiken Densetsu 3 should be at the top of your list. It is one of the best games I have ever played. It's technically Secret of Mana 2 with a much more fun battle system. There's 6 characters to pick from (you use 3, just like other SoM games), each has two class changes so you get to customize them a little bit that way. The translation is also really good. tomato-san, the guy who did it, is one of the moderators (or used to be, it's been a supremely long time) at ZSNES and is a good fellow. Last I heard, he's working for Funimation.

Terranigma is another Square title that never made it State-side that is pretty good. Tales of Phantasia, while it HAS been released for the GBA now, is another must-play, as is Rockman & Forte (released for the GBA as Megaman and Bass).

Dimmukane · « **Reply #13 on:** 16 Dec 2006, 01:59 »

Quote from: Narr on 16 Dec 2006, 01:31

I am not going to suggest all the stuff you already know you love.

I am going to suggest what the real beauty of emulation is: Fan translated ROMs of games that were never released in the United States.

Seiken Densetsu 3 should be at the top of your list. It is one of the best games I have ever played. It's technically Secret of Mana 2 with a much more fun battle system. There's 6 characters to pick from (you use 3, just like other SoM games), each has two class changes so you get to customize them a little bit that way. The translation is also really good. tomato-san, the guy who did it, is one of the moderators (or used to be, it's been a supremely long time) at ZSNES and is a good fellow. Last I heard, he's working for Funimation.

Terranigma is another Square title that never made it State-side that is pretty good. Tales of Phantasia, while it HAS been released for the GBA now, is another must-play, as is Rockman & Forte (released for the GBA as Megaman and Bass).

Terranigma was actually Enix, before the merger. Part of the Soul Blazer trilogy (which didn't really have much to do with each other) which I mentioned above.

ackblom12 · « **Reply #14 on:** 16 Dec 2006, 02:13 »

Alright, I'm gonna start a list. It's gonna be stupidly long. Enjoy.

SNES

Gradius III
Final Fight 1-3
Final Fantasy IV & VI (VI is easily the best FF made, and one of the best RPGs ever made in my opinion. IV is quite high up there as well.)
Lufia 2 (one of the best RPGs ever made, with easily the most heart wrenching ending ever made.)
7th Saga
Battletoads (just be prepared to use cheats to skip level 3.)
Super C
Secret of Mana
Secret of Evermore (everyone seemed to hate this game except me and 2 other individuals I've ever met. I loved the shit out of it. Toaster Dog of Doom FTW.)
Illusion of Gaia
Shadowrun
Soul Blazer
Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Super Metroid
Super Mario World
Megaman X 1-3
Breath of Fire
Breath of Fire 2
Actraiser
Actraiser 2
Earthbound
Super Punch Out!
Chrono Trigger (This is very close to being my favorite RPG of all time. Hated the shit out of the sequel)
The Lost Vikings
Uncharted Waters
Zombies Ate my Neighbors!
Demon's Crest (Firebrand is the coolest "hero" ever.)
Donkey Kong Country
Bahamut Lagoon
Contra III
F-Zero
Legend of the Mystical Ninja
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Ninja Gaiden Trilogy
Seiken Densetsu 3 (aka Secret of Mana sequel but better in every possible spect)
Maximum Carnage
Super Mario All Stars
Terranigma

ackblom12 · « **Reply #15 on:** 16 Dec 2006, 02:16 »

NES

Double Dragon 1 & 2
River City Ransom
Mighty Final Fight
Bionic Commando
Blaster Master
Wizards & Warriors (The first one was the only one worth playing)
Deja Vu
Ghostbusters (This is a love/hate relationship if i ever saw one)
Goonies
The Adventures of Lolo
Bomberman
Bayou Billy (Only if you like ball bustingly hard games)
Milon's Secret Castle
Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
Startropics 1 & 2
Little Nemo: The Dream Master
Lemmings
Bubble Bobble
Spy Hunter
Excite Bike
Hogan's Alley
Joust
Balloon Fighter
Iron Tank
Commando
Uncharted Waters
Y's
Final Fantasy 1
Dragon Warrior I - IV (just keep in mind that Dragon Warrior 1 is the epitomy of "Ye Olde School" with no pretty ribbons attached. It was one of the first after all. I also consider IV to be one of the best RPG's ever made.)
Battle Toads
Castlevania 1, 2 & 3 (3 is one of my personal favorite games ever.)
Legend of Zelda 1 & 2
Super Mario Bros. 1, 2 & 3
Punch Out!
Contra
Metroid
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2
Mega Man 1 - 6
Ninja Gaiden 1 - 3
A Boy and his Blob
Kid Icarus
Crystalis
Gradius
Maniac Mansion

Probably several I missed in both lists.. but enjoy!

ackblom12 · « **Reply #16 on:** 16 Dec 2006, 02:22 »

Quote from: guywithoutsocks on 15 Dec 2006, 23:33

Ooo, good choices. Lufia 2 had some weak graphics by 16-bit standards, but the puzzles were really great. Plus, I don't know how many hours of my life I wasted in that bonus dungeon.

Also for SNES:
Gargoyle's Quest
Mega Man X series (if you're into them)
Battletoads (if you need thumb blisters)
Gradius III

When you say Gargoyle's Quest, i think you mean Demon's Crest, or am I forgetting a game?

zacha · « **Reply #17 on:** 16 Dec 2006, 02:23 »

Quote from: ackblom12 on 16 Dec 2006, 02:13

Alright, I'm gonna start a list. It's gonna be stupidly long. Enjoy.

SNES

Gradius III
Final Fight 1-3
Final Fantasy IV & VI (VI is easily the best FF made, and one of the best RPGs ever made in my opinion. IV is quite high up there as well.)
Lufia 2 (one of the best RPGs ever made, with easily the most heart wrenching ending ever made.)
7th Saga
Battletoads (just be prepared to use cheats to skip level 3.)
Super C
Secret of Mana
Secret of Evermore (everyone seemed to hate this game except me and 2 other individuals I've ever met. I loved the shit out of it. Toaster Dog of Doom FTW.)
Illusion of Gaia
Shadowrun
Soul Blazer
Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Super Metroid
Super Mario World
Megaman X 1-3
Breath of Fire
Breath of Fire 2
Actraiser
Actraiser 2
Earthbound
Super Punch Out!
Chrono Trigger (This is very close to being my favorite RPG of all time. Hated the shit out of the sequel)
The Lost Vikings
Uncharted Waters
Zombies Ate my Neighbors!
Demon's Crest (Firebrand is the coolest "hero" ever.)
Donkey Kong Country
Bahamut Lagoon
Contra III
F-Zero
Legend of the Mystical Ninja
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Ninja Gaiden Trilogy
Secret of Mana 2 (The actual name of it isn't crossing my mind ritght now, but it's amazing)
Maximum Carnage
Super Mario All Stars
Terranigma

I think you got the most of them there actually... if not all =P
Seiken Densetsu 3 is also a wonderful game and a must play! ... but wait. That's probably what you meant with Secret of Mana 2, sorry, my bad.
And if you like Lufia 2 and want a real challenge play Lufia 1 (I never completed it but I have a friend who did)

guywithoutsocks · « **Reply #18 on:** 16 Dec 2006, 04:09 »

Quote from: ackblom12 on 16 Dec 2006, 02:22

When you say Gargoyle's Quest, i think you mean Demon's Crest, or am I forgetting a game?

Good catch - Demon's Crest it is. My mistake.

Also, were Seiken Densetsu 3 and/or Terranigma ever released in the U.S. in any shape or form? It seems like a real tragedy if they weren't.

mberan42 · « **Reply #19 on:** 16 Dec 2006, 04:23 »

The only way to play.

thegreatbuddha · « **Reply #20 on:** 16 Dec 2006, 04:44 »

OMGZ RETROGLOVE!!!!ONE!!

Storm Rider · « **Reply #21 on:** 16 Dec 2006, 04:57 »

Quote from: Narr on 16 Dec 2006, 01:31

Tales of Phantasia, while it HAS been released for the GBA now, is another must-play, as is Rockman & Forte (released for the GBA as Megaman and Bass).

Yeah, but I have no doubt that they cut out all of the hilarious dialogue for the ratings board. Seriously, it's worth emulating for the boat scene alone.

ackblom12 · « **Reply #22 on:** 16 Dec 2006, 04:57 »

Quote from: zacha on 16 Dec 2006, 02:23

I think you got the most of them there actually... if not all =P
Seiken Densetsu 3 is also a wonderful game and a must play! ... but wait. That's probably what you meant with Secret of Mana 2, sorry, my bad.
And if you like Lufia 2 and want a real challenge play Lufia 1 (I never completed it but I have a friend who did)

Ah yes, Seiken Densetsu 3 is what i meant by Secret of Mana 2, just couldn't recall the actual name at the time

It has been edited

I would have put Lufia 1 on there, but after playing Lufia 2, the story to me just wasn't up to par. I fi had played 1 first i think i wold ahve loved it though.

What's sad, is I'm pretty certain I'm missing a few games on that list

zacha · « **Reply #23 on:** 16 Dec 2006, 17:24 »

Quote from: Storm Rider on 16 Dec 2006, 04:57

Quote from: Narr on 16 Dec 2006, 01:31
Tales of Phantasia, while it HAS been released for the GBA now, is another must-play, as is Rockman & Forte (released for the GBA as Megaman and Bass).

Yeah, but I have no doubt that they cut out all of the hilarious dialogue for the ratings board. Seriously, it's worth emulating for the boat scene alone.

Ah, like the sexreferences in ff iv then =P
(I love fantranslations of old snes games =P)

Quote from: ackblom12 on 16 Dec 2006, 04:57

Quote from: zacha on 16 Dec 2006, 02:23
I think you got the most of them there actually... if not all =P
Seiken Densetsu 3 is also a wonderful game and a must play! ... but wait. That's probably what you meant with Secret of Mana 2, sorry, my bad.
And if you like Lufia 2 and want a real challenge play Lufia 1 (I never completed it but I have a friend who did)

Ah yes, Seiken Densetsu 3 is what i meant by Secret of Mana 2, just couldn't recall the actual name at the time It has been edited

I would have put Lufia 1 on there, but after playing Lufia 2, the story to me just wasn't up to par. I fi had played 1 first i think i wold ahve loved it though.

What's sad, is I'm pretty certain I'm missing a few games on that list

Well. I agree that it feels like something's missing. But I can't say what... maybe Star Ocean (although I never finished it actually).

Catfish_Man · « **Reply #24 on:** 17 Dec 2006, 00:46 »

My issues with Lufia 1 were mostly a) some quirks about the combat system, and b) the lack of puzzles. I really feel the rotation between four gameplay types (exploration, plot, combat, puzzles) kept the sequel from feeling like grinding, which is all too common in most RPGs including Lufia 1. It's still a decent enough game, but it doesn't stand out from the pack the way 2 does.

Let's see... some other fun ones:
Brain Lord - Strange game, but quite good imo. I didn't like the ending section though (4th and 5th dungeon. The 5th one was neat... but it just got tiresome, particularly the dark areas. The second is probably my favorite).

FF6 is indeed excellent, although unlike most people I cannot understand the obsession with chrono trigger. I found it childish in far too many places, and didn't like some of the mechanics. If something's going to be that long it'd better be A+ list quality, and I don't feel CT makes the cut.

Terranigma got me all excited by being amazingly creative, but then I ended up disliking the game after the first hour or so.

In case you can't tell, I'm a hella picky RPG player. Pick up a few old PC RPGs while you're at it. Castle of the Winds if you're feeling really retro, and Quest for Glory (4 in particular) if you want to see a level of care and love they just don't put into games anymore.

NES games
--------> Bubble Bobble! <--------
the original NES Zelda is pretty decent, although not up to LttP/OoT quality (and apparently TP, which I still haven't played).

ackblom12 · « **Reply #25 on:** 17 Dec 2006, 02:14 »

Oh hell, the entire Quest for Glory series is simply amazing, but if I was going to include any PC games for my lists, I would have spent another hour making it.

Honestly, I'm picky as hell when it comes to RPG's, and I seriously think Chrono Trigger was probably one of the best RPGs ever made. Definitely THE best that never seemed to influenced it's genre.

Of course, I don't think Square has made a particularly good Final Fantasy since 7, and even 7 i thought was merely good.

In all seriousness, what exactly did you find to be childish about Chrono Trigger? For me, the story gave off nothing but a very well done and mature storyline, and very dark at points, with a good dose of humor to keep it from going stale.

Seriously, not looking for an argument on the matter, I'm just very curious.

zacha · « **Reply #26 on:** 17 Dec 2006, 02:16 »

Quote from: Catfish_Man on 17 Dec 2006, 00:46

My issues with Lufia 1 were mostly a) some quirks about the combat system, and b) the lack of puzzles. I really feel the rotation between four gameplay types (exploration, plot, combat, puzzles) kept the sequel from feeling like grinding, which is all too common in most RPGs including Lufia 1. It's still a decent enough game, but it doesn't stand out from the pack the way 2 does.

Let's see... some other fun ones:
Brain Lord - Strange game, but quite good imo. I didn't like the ending section though (4th and 5th dungeon. The 5th one was neat... but it just got tiresome, particularly the dark areas. The second is probably my favorite).

FF6 is indeed excellent, although unlike most people I cannot understand the obsession with chrono trigger. I found it childish in far too many places, and didn't like some of the mechanics. If something's going to be that long it'd better be A+ list quality, and I don't feel CT makes the cut.

Terranigma got me all excited by being amazingly creative, but then I ended up disliking the game after the first hour or so.

In case you can't tell, I'm a hella picky RPG player. Pick up a few old PC RPGs while you're at it. Castle of the Winds if you're feeling really retro, and Quest for Glory (4 in particular) if you want to see a level of care and love they just don't put into games anymore.

Well, as I played Lufia 1 first before Lufia 2 I actually found Lufia 2 "too easy" sometimes and in a way to childish =P (Lufia 1 is a helluva challenge...)

Quest for glory! Yeah, now we are talking. (All the quest games are great btw. I own the whole kq and sq series and have been brought up with them).
The first one is actually the one I liked best as I have it home (in the name Hero's Quest) on 5.25 floppies and it was that game and it's sequel which actually made me learn English (search was the hardest word I knew I was little =P, but I had to learn it because the "search body" command) before my English education began (and I have always been best in class since).

zacha · « **Reply #27 on:** 17 Dec 2006, 02:20 »

Quote from: ackblom12 on 17 Dec 2006, 02:14

Oh hell, the entire Quest for Glory series is simply amazing, but if I was going to include any PC games for my lists, I would have spent another hour making it.

Honestly, I'm picky as hell when it comes to RPG's, and I seriously think Chrono Trigger was probably one of the best RPGs ever made. Definitely THE best that never seemed to influenced it's genre. Of course, I don't think Square has made a particularly good Final Fantasy since 7, and even 7 i thought was merely good.

In all seriousness, what exactly did you find to be childish about Chrono Trigger? For me, the story gave off nothing but a very well done and mature storyline, and very dark at points, with a good dose of humor to keep it from going stale.

Seriously, not looking for an argument on the matter, I'm just very curious.

Ah, I also liked Chrono Trigger. Mostly because of the battle system, the story and the possibility of the multiple endings (although I never finished the New+ endings).
The nice part is (spoiled select the following text to read it)that you can decide Chrono's destiny by helping him or not.

Catfish_Man · « **Reply #28 on:** 17 Dec 2006, 03:04 »

Quote from: ackblom12 on 17 Dec 2006, 02:14

In all seriousness, what exactly did you find to be childish about Chrono Trigger? For me, the story gave off nothing but a very well done and mature storyline, and very dark at points, with a good dose of humor to keep it from going stale.

Seriously, not looking for an argument on the matter, I'm just very curious.

65,000,000 BC and to a lesser extent, the future time period. I mean, clich?s are an absolute staple of SNES RPGs, but CT takes it a little too far. I also have some other issues that I can't quite describe... the game just grates on me somehow (although parts are quite good).

ackblom12 · « **Reply #29 on:** 17 Dec 2006, 03:38 »

Well, as I played Lufia 1 first before Lufia 2 I actually found Lufia 2 "too easy" sometimes and in a way to childish =P (Lufia 1 is a helluva challenge...)

Quest for glory! Yeah, now we are talking. (All the quest games are great btw. I own the whole kq and sq series and have been brought up with them).
The first one is actually the one I liked best as I have it home (in the name Hero's Quest) on 5.25 floppies and it was that game and it's sequel which actually made me learn English (search was the hardest word I knew I was little =P, but I had to learn it because the "search body" command) before my English education began (and I have always been best in class since).
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Man, there was certainly nothing childish about Lufia 2 when it comes to story or emotional impact. Unless you count the capsule monsters. Those buggers were adorably lethal.

Quest for Glory 2 is probably my favorite of the entire series, but oh god it's so damn hard to choose between them

I have some sites for you...

http://www.agdinteractive.com/

They have VGA remakes of King's Quest 1 & 2 with music and voice packs that are optional downloads. AMAZING remakes of those games. The remake they are currently working on is a VGA remake of Quest for Glory 2. They are currently in Alpha testing phase and it'll be a few months before it's released, but I'm getting ready to build a character in QFG1 and have him ready for import

http://www.infamous-adventures.com/kq3/

That site has a VGA remake of King's Quest 3. Not quite up to the level of detail and skill that AGD's remake's are, but damn close. also has a voice pack for optional download.

http://waywardmind.com/KQ4/

They are currently working on a VGA remake of King's Quest 4. It's looking very promising.

Also, since it seems liek you have a real appreciation of the classics...

http://www.the-underdogs.info/

Wonderful collection of all of the most underrated games in PC history. Includes links for downloads of games that have become abandonware/freeware.

Johnny C · « **Reply #30 on:** 18 Dec 2006, 00:36 »

Sierra sold a King's Quest Collection back when Windows 98 was really modern and futuristic. It had every KQ game up to VII, both of the Laura Bow games, a bunch of old Apple II Sierra games with an emulator and the Mother Goose adventure game. I still have it. It's a blast.

zacha · « **Reply #31 on:** 18 Dec 2006, 01:00 »

Quote from: Johnny C on 18 Dec 2006, 00:36

Sierra sold a King's Quest Collection back when Windows 98 was really modern and futuristic. It had every KQ game up to VII, both of the Laura Bow games, a bunch of old Apple II Sierra games with an emulator and the Mother Goose adventure game. I still have it. It's a blast.

My collection is only up to 6. But I have the 7 (and 8... although it doesn't count =P)

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