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James Joyce: What say you??
Narr:
--- Quote from: KharBevNor on 02 Dec 2006, 10:21 ---Oh man, please go into a fine art critique session and say that. It would be insanely amusing.
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If I ever get the chance, dude, I'm all over it.
Seriously, I remember a story of a guy who pissed in a bucket and then stuck a cross in it, titling his creation as "Piss on Jesus" and it was applauded as some serious deep art shit. I remember wanting to vomit at the obscene amount of money the guy was paid.
@ Gregs: Sorry. You're right. I have no idea why I said Ulysses.
KharBevNor:
You mean Pisschrist?
For a start, it's a photo, not just a bucket full of piss and a cross. It's actually a very nice photo, aesthetically pleasing and well lit, which is the point of the whole piece. It's a piece that pushes the boundary between the sacred and profane to its utmost limit: the lighting creates an actually quite beautiful halo of urine around the christ figure. What ultimate meaning we draw from it is of course personal, but it's far more complex than 'HUR PEE ON JESUS HURR'. It's quite easy to read it as a Christian statement: on the misuse of Jesus' words, or perhaps a statement that even in the most filthy conditions, the beauty of God can shine through. It is, in fact, a rather complex and well-executed piece. I could easily write about it at some length, if I could be bothered.
ScrambledGregs:
My problem with art like that is that the artist's explanation and intent is better than the art itself. I am all about the results of something and not the methods. I could care less if an artist is an asshole or makes his art for this or that reason. All that matters to me is if I like it and how it makes me feel, if it makes me feel anything at all.
Manta Ray:
read dubliners, you really can't get any better than that.
i'm sorry guys, but joyce is awesome.
KharBevNor:
--- Quote from: ScrambledGregs on 02 Dec 2006, 21:24 ---My problem with art like that is that the artist's explanation and intent is better than the art itself.
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Yeah, but I think it's actually a rather aesthetically pleasing picture. Please bear in mind there is no 'artists explanation', except the title, which is another one of the interesting things about it: if he hadn't called it 'pisschrist', would we actually come to the conclusion that the substance the cross is suspended in is piss? IS the substance piss? We don't actually know, not just from that picture. Pisschrist is easily about the results and not the methods, although there's many great pieces of art that are purely about the methods.
Sorry about this by the way, but I'm an illustration student, my girlfriends an abstract film-maker and we live in a halls of residence with 98 other assorted student artists. I will defend the validity of modern art as an artform tooth and nail, though some of it is, admittedly, quite shit. Some of it is astounding however.
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