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TheFuriousWombat:
TURNER!!!
frickin seascapes, man!!
ekmesnz:
--- Quote from: TheFuriousWombat on 22 Jan 2007, 00:33 ---TURNER!!!
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I love Turner.
Johnny C:
--- Quote from: KharBevNor on 20 Jan 2007, 06:57 ---Andy Goldsworthy
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I love Goldsworthy. Although would Rachel Whiteread fall under the "modern abstract sculptor" label? I like a lot of her work.
KharBevNor:
--- Quote from: ekmesnz on 21 Jan 2007, 08:46 ---That's a peculiar perspective. I think Rothko and his contemporaries certainly had a lot more going for them than the dullness of the pre-Raphaelite brotherhood.
Something about ready-mades catches your eye but careful painting doesn't? Please explain.
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I appreciate the intellectual/theoretical element of Dada and Surrealism. 'Fountain' was a challenge to the entirety of art that chimes with my personal intellectual position that all things that are designed are art. Duchamps paintings are also spectacular. They are abstract, but alive with motion and power. Nude Descending a Staircase No. 2 is one of my top ten favourite paintings. In Rothko I see nothing. Colour exercises blown up and backed up by pretentious drivel, saying nothing, symbolising nothing, communicating on the same level as wallpaper. Pollock works on some level as an expression of emotion, but I find it impossible to appreciate his artistry, so I don't.
Also, Turner is a genius. Rain, Steam and Speed, the second of the paintings above, is another definite entry in my top 10. Don't see how he relates to abstraction though, he was a pure romantic.
As for careful painting in Rothko vs. Pre-raphaelites, are you somehow expecting me to think that this:
Is somehow a more careful and skillful painting than this:
(incidentally another of my favourites).
Lines:
that second one is gorgeous. who's the painter?
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