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HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Tom:
It wasn't until later into Game of Thrones that Daenerys started to get less passive. Maybe this is just their way of showing it.
Alex C:
Yeah, but it's a George RR Martin book. That happens like, a half million pages later.
the_pied_piper:
I'd agree that the nudity is definitely one of the more silly issues from this first episode but the main problem is that they really flew through a lot of text in just 1 episode and so much was cut out. The prologue scene was probably my favourite part but the scene where they found the direwolves was just so odd as that was pretty much as far from the actual text as it could have been. Even with these flaws I'd say that plenty of performances shone through; Tyrion, Jaime, Ned, Robb and Jon were all great but Cersei is going to bug the hell out of me, she just wasn't crazy enough, really. Viseris was also excellent, there was that real danger that he could change his mood in an instant but Daenarys being naked for pretty much 90% of the time she was on screen was just silly.
As an aside because this really is nitpicking but Magister Illyrio is supposed to be fat as a whale. Roger Allam is a great actor and a good choice but there are pretty much only 2 parts to Illyrio's character; he is absurdly rich and just as absurdly fat.
Alex C:
--- Quote from: tuathal on 18 Apr 2011, 13:46 --- That only lasts a few chapters though.
--- End quote ---
Yeah, but she only -has- a few chapters. Beyond that, her overt power is a straight up exception to the rule and the way Martin demonstrates that fact is by first making her a pawn before making her a player in her own right. Anyway, perhaps it's not entirely fair but first impressions can count for a lot and I think it's fair to say that the book and the TV series both start her out in a rather pitiful situation. And barring an overt acceleration of her storyline (which I admittedly think is likely, all things considered), this will be the last audiences will see of her character for quite a while.
scarred:
A pilot episode is by no means the way to judge a series. Usually pilots are terrible (with the exception of The Walking Dead, among others) but the shows themselves end up really good along down the line (with the exception of The Walking Dead, among others). I think it shows promise (though it wasn't great by any means). But, like what's been said, they had an awful lot of backstory and framing to establish. I almost feel like they should've started the show with a proper standard TV double episode (around 90 minutes).
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