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ackblom12:
I just marathoned Season 3 tonight. Watching that last scene was a lot more brutal than reading it. oof.

ChaoSera:
Haha, I was looking forward to when the show reaches that point. I think I'll watch that episode later today, just to see it played out. I remember when reading it I was constantly thinking something along the lines of 'Holy Shit, this can't seriously be happening'. Martin can be a huge dick to his characters but it plays oh-so-well into the story.

On a somewhat related note: GOD DAMNIT I WANT THE SIXTH BOOK BUT IT'S STILL GONNA BE SO LONG UNTIL IT'LL BE RELEASED!

sixleaf:
I was really looking forward to this point in the show, but all the actors did such a damn good job of making me get all emotional about it anyway, particularly before it happened. When I was reading the books, I took all the good things that were happening in stride, but watching the show, I knew what was going to happen, and that made the anticipation worse.

Still, it was kind of great to watch and I loved all the non-readers' reactions.

Also, this: https://twitter.com/maggiekb1/status/341556427606863873

ackblom12:
See, I don't consider Martin to be a dick to his characters. I think that one of the biggest strengths in the series is how well it points out the problems with Plot Immunity. No one who dies in the series dies without reason. It's almost always the most logical end to the choices they've made and the events surrounding them. This is especially obvious when you compare it to 99% of the rest of fiction. Characters constantly survive in stories they have no business surviving in.

ChaoSera:
When I said being a dick to his characters, I didn't mean that them dying doesn't make sense. On the contrary, I love how - unlike the other 99% of fiction you mentioned - nobody in this series is protected from dying. It makes it way more realistic in is part of the reason why the books are among my favorite books ever.

WARNING: This spoiler contains Information not yet depicted in the TV show. Do not read if you haven't read the books or don't mind being spoilered.
(click to show/hide)What I meant by being a dick is, he seems to enjoy having his characters die in mean ways and mostly by treason. The Red Wedding, while certainly the cruelest example, is not the only occasion. Eddard only dies because Littlefinger breaks their pact, Stannis had Melisandre kill his own brother by sorcery, Joffrey gets poisoned by either his own uncle or a member of the small council (I can't remember which one is actually true, though I do seem to remember both of them kinda admitting it), Jon gets stabbed by those he was trying to protect, and so on. I don't say it's bad story-telling - on the contrary. It's just kinda mean.

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