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HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
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(click to show/hide)In Jon's case, it didn't hurt his reputation with the wildlings that he literally died for them.
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--- Quote from: LeeC on 19 Jun 2016, 19:40 ---Tonight's episode. Holy hell.
(click to show/hide) The Starks only won due to dumb luck and Sansa's alliance with littlefinger. It was admirable that Jon tried to save Rickon, but he should have listen to Sansa and just bit the bullet. Their entire army was in disarray. I suppose the only good thing that came out of the beginning of the battle was the Bolton's cavalry was wiped out. Seemed like only the free folk fought with unit cohesion during the fight, and I blame Jon's ride into No-man's land. Was quite a spectacle though.
Danny seemed quite charmed by Yasha. The mereen siege was pretty cool. Khalissar showed up, dragons all free, burned ships, cause the rest to surrender. Kiled 2/3 leaders and established dominance. Who knows how many levies Danny can raise with slaver's bay now becoming freedom bay.
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--- Quote from: Detachable Felix on 20 Jun 2016, 04:54 --- (click to show/hide)There has been literally no death on the series as satisfying as Ramsay's. Holy fuck.
I mean, Jon, Tormund and Co would have been absolutely fucked had Sansa not arrived with the Deus Ex Machina Littlefinger's army, but still.
That was metal.
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(click to show/hide)you're both assuming that Little-Finger just happened to show up at the exact perfect moment to save the day. i think he was there the whole time, with his people hiding out in the woods, just waiting for that moment. think about it, if he'd made his army known & available right from the start, John would have factored them into his strategy & made the best use of them, winning the battle at a minimal loss of life/strength, & possibly even managing to save Rickon.
but instead, John's army was severely weakened, while Little-Finger's is left mostly intact, and the last known Stark boy is dead. and perhaps more importantly, Little-Finger gets to look like the big damn hero to everyone, while john looks like an idiot who got his brother & his followers killed with his impatience.
its Little-Finger's style to set things up so that no matter how they play out, he ends up in the strongest position possible. hell, i'm willing to bet that he was marching for winterfell before he even ever received Sansa's letter, & probably would've come to the rescue exactly the same way if she hadn't sent it at all.
which makes it all just so much more satisfying to watch his face during the 'king of the north' scene at the end.
J:
on another note entirely
(click to show/hide)i fucking knew something special was gonna be in store for that nun. i was totally ready to come here & say something like 'Cersie Wins: Mass Fatality' up until poor Tomin's diving practice.
(click to show/hide)also, aside from King Snow, it seems like the women-folk are pretty much taking over the world.
also, i was really hoping we could see Sean Bean come back for a flashback or two this season. :(
LeeC:
J:
(click to show/hide)Now that he's King of da norf, he has more numbers. The Manderlys, Cerwyns, and Glovers have pledged their armies along with whoever else didn't come to Bastard bowl. Enough to contend with the vale I imagine.
(click to show/hide) Poor Jon. A new player has entered the game...although I don't think he knows that. After all he knows nothing. It would be refreshing to see Jon go to Sansa at the beginning of Season 7 and say "Sansa, I know nothing. Help me rule. I value your opinion and council. The North belongs to the both of us."
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