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HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
cybersmurf:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 20 May 2019, 00:07 ---Okay, I didn't see the episode by I've read a few post-game recaps so here's my thoughts:
(click to show/hide)As for the destruction of the Iron Throne? Drogon was wise, I believe, to realise that this cursed artefact was the ultimate cause of all of this and that, with the extinction of House Targaryen, it no longer had any purpose to outweigh its negative temptations.
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(click to show/hide)cue the "If Dany can't have the throne, noone shall!" fanbois.
(click to show/hide)As far as storytelling goes, this episode is a contender for 'best of the season'. Not that that would be hard, considering some of their choices and the amount of episodes. Although they could have told it in less time, it wasn't bad.
JoeCovenant:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 20 May 2019, 00:07 ---Okay, I didn't see the episode by I've read a few post-game recaps so here's my thoughts:
(click to show/hide)Above all else, George R R Martin's thesis is that the liberator is the one least qualified to lead the liberated. After fighting for so long and so brutally, violence and killing becomes the hammer of what starts looking like a world of nails; which is basically the way Daenyerys Targaryen was seeing the world. So, the only possible choice for one to lead the rebuilding is one who wasn't involved in the fight at all and thus can look at the problems in front of him or her without the bitter emotions of the war just ended.
As for the destruction of the Iron Throne? Drogon was wise, I believe, to realise that this cursed artefact was the ultimate cause of all of this and that, with the extinction of House Targaryen, it no longer had any purpose to outweigh its negative temptations.
Similarly, Martin also makes us look at heroes and asks if their path of violence and treachery is really 'heroic', even though what they did was for the greatest and highest of purposes, hence Jon's exile beyond the Wall and Arya's self-banishment to the West.
Finally, he suggests that, sometimes, things are just too broken to fix and you have to be willing to walk way (specifically Sansa and the newly-independent North)
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But GRR Martin didn't write this.
ANd all the show runners had to work on where things he seemingly 'briefly discussed' at least 5 years ago.
His next book is still unfinished after 8 years... and there is still another to come after that (according to his own statements)
Personally, I doubt the books will end like the series.
(Or, may end similarly to the series... but with a far more satisfying qualified resolution)
BenRG:
My opinion? After seeing the mixed response to seasons 7 and 8, G R R Martin may abandon writing the last books altogether. I understand that his fandom makes him more than a little uncomfortable and he may not be willing to invite this level of invective into his life any further.
JoeCovenant:
All things being equal...
I think I can pretty much say "Called it!!" :)
(Well... if you add bits together... :) maybe 75% )
I can't honestly say I was *satisified* with the last season, I think they made a HUGE mistake condensing the last two series.
And the contradictions within some characters between those series stilted the ultimate conclusions.
For a series that often put spectacle before story telling, they sort of shot themselves in the foot with this one.
Series overall - 8/10
Last episode... a solid 5
JoeCovenant:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 21 May 2019, 01:57 ---My opinion? After seeing the mixed response to seasons 7 and 8, G R R Martin may abandon writing the last books altogether. I understand that his fandom makes him more than a little uncomfortable and he may not be willing to invite this level of invective into his life any further.
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Iii dunno...
I would certainly find it hard to turn my back on something I'd already spent 8 years working on.
(Personally, it took me 5 years to get "The God of All Small Boys" published - but then, that was my first 'legitimately' published book, so maybe I had more impetus to continue working on it.)
To be frank, I probably wouldn't be surprised if he pulled out of the series... but then, I would imagine he'd be MIGHTILY sued by his publisher...
But on the whole, I think he's too invested in the characters to just stop.
I think his fans biggest fears are that he dies before he does.
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