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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #50 on: 27 Jan 2007, 08:51 »

I would see a band called the Fire Hydrant Men
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #51 on: 02 Mar 2007, 08:13 »

I think it went well! There is a video of me playing!

So far nobody has given me a real critique yet. I am a little depressed about that but I have an idea of what I need to do to improve, in order of importance:

1) Sing louder!
2) Be confident in my lyrics!
3) Learn where to stop bantering!
4) Stick to the key!
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #52 on: 02 Mar 2007, 09:01 »

Johnny rocks out upside down.
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #53 on: 02 Mar 2007, 10:47 »

The upside down camera during the solo made me grin. All in all, a solid performance. Especially for your first one, I hope to see some videos of your next show.
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #54 on: 02 Mar 2007, 11:27 »

Johnny! That is really good! That clapping along part was pretty awsome, too.

Baisically, I think you need to move around a bit more. Especially during your solo.
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #55 on: 02 Mar 2007, 11:32 »

High five Johnny, high five.
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #56 on: 02 Mar 2007, 13:30 »

Johnny! That is really good! That clapping along part was pretty awsome, too.

Baisically, I think you need to move around a bit more. Especially during your solo.

Advice accepted!

High-fives all around.
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #57 on: 02 Mar 2007, 13:48 »

johnny c is magic! oh my goodness johnny i forgot when your show was gonna be! i think you sound really good. hooray for a show gone well!
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #58 on: 02 Mar 2007, 14:20 »

I am about to go get ready to play a show tonight myself.  Some advice Johnny:

The whole "looking down" or "looking at guitar" thing is kinda cool if you're Jesus and Mary Chain but for your kind of music it gives off that "amateurish" vibe.  If you absolutely have to look at your guitar to play it right, at least look up as much as possible.  Don't look AT the audience, look OVER them.

Unless they love you and there are hot scene chix in the front row, you can look at them.

Do not tell stories introducing your songs unless you are Wayne Coyne, Jeff Mangum or a reasonable approximation thereof.

I would dress less formal if I were you.  That's just my preference.  I do put some thought into what I wear at a show, because no matter what, people are going to be affected by how you look.  So I wear my normal stuff, but I do put thought into things like "Which jacket should I wear?" because I have a lot of jackets.

Make it look easy.  Even if you're messing up or not quite playing the right thing, as long as you look relaxed people won't really notice.  (Or go the other way and be "over the top" so that any mistakes are just "colorful", but that's harder to pull off well.)

Don't be one of those guys who uses the same pedal in every song.  Especially if it's a phaser.

Get a backing band.

Hope that helps and wish me luck tonight.
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #59 on: 02 Mar 2007, 19:24 »

Do not tell stories introducing your songs unless you are Wayne Coyne, Jeff Mangum or a reasonable approximation thereof.

If you've got charisma, and they're good stories it doesn't matter who you are.
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #60 on: 02 Mar 2007, 19:56 »

Hey Johnny, with the exception of your soloing, I think you had too much rhythm and not enough riffing. The solo and the second song were interesting but the first song wasn't really engaging.
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #61 on: 02 Mar 2007, 21:29 »

I am about to go get ready to play a show tonight myself.  Some advice Johnny:

The whole "looking down" or "looking at guitar" thing is kinda cool if you're Jesus and Mary Chain but for your kind of music it gives off that "amateurish" vibe.  If you absolutely have to look at your guitar to play it right, at least look up as much as possible.  Don't look AT the audience, look OVER them..


I noticed this a lot in my performance, when i watched the video tape of it.  It also sounded like I was a very sloppy player, probably due to my improvised parts.  I was too nervous to look up so i kept my eyes glued to my guitar.  The next time i play, I hope to remind myself of that. 

Hopefully, me and "my" "band" will begin practice in 3-4 weeks. And hopefully with a new singer, one or two less guitar players, a new amp, and a better drummer.  Of course, I will just be happy to have a band to work with. 
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #62 on: 03 Mar 2007, 01:14 »

Maybe get something to put your laptop on if you use it quite often during the set. It'll make it look more like an instrument than something you're just playing beats from.

Also, 10 points for clapping.
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #63 on: 03 Mar 2007, 02:12 »

words of tips!
I have responses for the majority of these! Here they go.

Yeah the looking at the guitar was pretty frequent but I did look up a lot! And a lot during the first half of that song, most of my non-backed songs and especially the last song! That song I was trying a bit too much to do unusual stuff and it just didn't come off well. And there were not hot scene chicks in the first row. In fact this was my first show. It is tough to attract hot scene chicks to your first show.

The banter seemed to go well, actually. The stories about Disneyland calling me fat and about me feeling like an old man and about how worrying it was to go to the bar for water only to discover my mother handling a bottle of wine that I didn't even realize the venue sold all went over with laughter. The middle one even got applause! I just have a habit of talking too long, onstage and off.

I agree. I would have gone less formal but all my nice clothes are in the bag Air Canada lost.

I tried to look like I was just having fun; otherwise, it's essentially how I play the song. I'm an okay actor but not good enough to really oversell or undersell what I'm doing with a guitar and a microphone.

I don't own any pedals. Problem solved!

God have I ever tried.

Good luck with your show!

McTaggart, what do you mean "get something to put on your laptop?" I mean, at the moment, the laptop is providing more than just beats - I have a Casiotone that I'm going to use in my next show which does that - it's also providing me with bass and various other instruments. A good way to find out what I use it for is to go to my music Myspace, listen to "Pop Theory" and pay attention to the sounds which are not vocals or guitar. Everything that isn't one of those two elements is from Garageband. Also, I accept your ten points. There was more clapping later in the show, and that particular song ended with a singalong of "we got snakes" in which members of the audience started hissing. It was unexpected and great to hear, and acknowledging it brought laughter and applause.
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #64 on: 03 Mar 2007, 02:58 »

Put your laptop on, not put on your laptop. It was sitting on the floor in that clip, if you can get it up to where you can use it without bending down it'll look more like it's not a replacement band and it's part of your instruments. You'll probably also find it easier (and probably more tempting) to do more with it.
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #65 on: 03 Mar 2007, 07:20 »

The whole "looking down" or "looking at guitar" thing is kinda cool if you're Jesus and Mary Chain but for your kind of music it gives off that "amateurish" vibe.  If you absolutely have to look at your guitar to play it right, at least look up as much as possible.  Don't look AT the audience, look OVER them.

See, I disagree with this.  As an actor, I know that it's important to engage the audience.  I think that if you spend the whole time looking over them you will come across as really artificial, and it will be impossible to truly engage your audience members.  The trick is to look at your audience, and not avoid making eye contact, but not hold the eye contact.  So, look at your audience, because you're playing to them, but don't make anyone feel uncomfortable by singing solely to them (unless you're dedicating a song or something to that specific person); look at everyone in the audience.

Also, I think that over-analyzing your onstage behavior might actually be detrimental to your performances.  Sure, you can think about what to wear, and how much banter is enough, but most importantly, just get up and play your music with all the passion that you can channel into it.  Because yes, you are playing for the benefit of the audience, but you're also playing music for yourself;  if you don't believe yourself, no one else will.

I really enjoyed the video.  Way to go Johnny!
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #66 on: 03 Mar 2007, 07:54 »

Oh yeah, and the camera going upside down during the solo was completely ftlol.
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #67 on: 03 Mar 2007, 16:17 »

Johnny rocks out upside down.

While the crowd rocks out in the dark. (I totally couldn't see a damn thing when they guy went over the crowd while they were clapping.  Except the "exit" sign, that is.)
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #68 on: 03 Mar 2007, 21:43 »

Put your laptop on, not put on your laptop.

Oh!

Actually it was on a TV tray that I'd brought from home. It wasn't too difficult to reach, but next time I would definitely like it higher, yeah.
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #69 on: 04 Mar 2007, 12:58 »

Oh, I didn't mean to imply that one should be "acting" by putting thought into stuff like that.  Those are just some things I think about and the way I do things, so for me, they are being myself.

I mean, I know it's cool to brush off the non-musical aspects of playing a show, but the fact is there are other elements to it.  It's not as simple as "people standing around listening to your music", it's "people standing around watching you play your music".  So there is always an element of showmanship, whether you want there to be or not.  From the perspective of the audience, even having a total lack of showmanship is perceived as showmanship.  Even if I don't put thought into what jacket I want to wear, the audience is likely to assume that I did.  That's just how audiences work.  Some friends of mine recently played a show inside a giant inflatable semi-transparent bag.  These are guys who really don't care about making anything less than incredibly good, loud, bizarre music.  So whether it's deciding to play in a plastic bag, or bouncing around in a bubble like Wayne Coyne, or playing with your back to the audience while sitting down, it's all in some way part of the show.

Tommy, I think if they make the indie rock Spinal Tap the first people they need to call are Arcade Fire, Wayne Coyne, the Decemberists, and Polyphonic Spree, if you want to make a big deal about wardrobe choice.  Compared to how those people dress up for their shows, me picking the red leather jacket over the black leather jacket is probably not a big deal.   :angel:
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #70 on: 04 Mar 2007, 23:27 »

Oh and Of Montreal. The last time I saw them they were dressed as big gay sparkly aliens in drag who liked Prince a little too much.

Also GOOD JOB JOHNNY! I like your songs, and I love your voice.
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #71 on: 05 Mar 2007, 08:07 »

There is no such thing as "loving Prince too much."

Also thank you! Sometimes my voice pisses me off so it's good to hear that people like it!
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #72 on: 05 Mar 2007, 21:54 »

That was badass.  Only critique, at least for the song in the video, is the "For God Sakes" bit went on a little too long.  Otherwise, I'd have paid to be there.  Well, I should have paid to be there.  Problem is, that venue is some 2000 miles away from where I live.
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #73 on: 09 Mar 2007, 22:17 »

This may well be the only thread I've ever seen that has:
0 trolls
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This is the sort of thing that almost retors my faith in the internet.

Congratulations on pulling of the show.
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #74 on: 09 Mar 2007, 22:56 »

Thanks, I think? As far as the "no trolls" thing goes, honestly if you poke around on any of these forums you'll find there's very little of that. Occasionally there is some debating and frequently there is light ribbing but I think that's about it.
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« Reply #75 on: 10 Mar 2007, 01:32 »

My friend, a local comedian who is gaining some repute, would like to play the tambourine during one of my songs. I'm considering inviting multiple people on stage for that one. (multiple = five, six) I'm also considering inviting people who want to dance to dance.

Usually that works best if you yourself have become a little established.  Bands in DeKalb have been known to do that, but you really have to read the audiance.  And if I'm not mistaken you said this was your first show.

However, guest musicians (i.e. the comedian you mentioned playing tamborine and anyone else for percussion or whatever) could look cool if they're willing to actually participate and not just stand onstage and act lame.

When you say that Bands in Dekalb have been known to invite people onto the stage to dance are you referring Inspector Owl... they are totally awesome... javascript:void(0);
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Anyway, my first show advice is this have fun, relax, be yourself, if yourself is awkward that will work for you.  Also, people have ADD and have never heard you before so maybe try a short set, like 25 or 30 minutes.  I offten go to shows and see a new band and for like 6 songs I am blown away, then they keep playing... and I think to myself... this is starting to get kinda samey.  Then around song 8 I get bored.  If people know your songs this is different, when you are an established band you can play longer sets.  I donno, thats how I think anyway. 

Also move around some, take up space... oh and regardless of if there are 2 people or 200 treat every show like its sold out.  Yes.
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #76 on: 10 Mar 2007, 08:26 »

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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #77 on: 10 Mar 2007, 14:06 »

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« Reply #78 on: 10 Mar 2007, 15:05 »

my band has been writing some fun really happy-sounding pop songs with odd structures. Should we play those, or boring folk/country songs that our guitarist used to write?

Assuming you'll be getting paid the same no matter what, why would you choose to play songs you aren't interested in going forward with?  Play the music your band is setting out to play.  If people don't like it, it's no big deal.

It's better to have 1 person out of 100 like the music you want to make rather than have 99 like music you have no interest in playing again.
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Re: I am playing a show on Feb. 25.
« Reply #79 on: 10 Mar 2007, 15:15 »

I'm with zerodrone, you and your band should stick to what you want to do.

If youre proud of the songs you worte, play them!
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