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Storm Rider:
That's because all the statistics about it are hidden from viewing in-game.

Welcome to the mindfuck.

ackblom12:
Naaaaah, I'm relying on other people actually to get all of my thingamajigs. Namely a couple of friends who already have most of the older games. That, and message boards do a whole lot of good for rarer trades.

As far as EV's go, it's not that hard to get them, it's just a matter of it being a pain in the ass and tedious to get the ones you want. IV's on the other hand can kiss my obsessive ass.

Storm Rider:
The point is, I am not interested in monitoring every battle my Pokemon ever get in. As such EV/IV are of no interest to me.

ackblom12:
Completely understandable, I'm just going to end up wasting a stupid amount of my life in this game.  :-P

SilentJ:

--- Quote from: Storm Rider on 06 May 2007, 20:46 ---Yeah guys, I'm gonna be blunt: all the 'Red/Blue were the only REAL Pokemon games' stuff is bullshit. More Pokemon, more moves, and more types just means added layers of strategy which makes the games better for everyone. Besides, Psychic types were way overpowered in Red/Blue because the only Ghost types in the game were also Poison subtype and thus were vulnerable to Psychic attacks anyway, and because there were no very powerful bug type moves in Red and Blue. The only problems I have with Diamond/Pearl are that A) it's impossible to complete the Pokedex unless you've purchased every Pokemon game that has come out on the GBA or are willing to do an assload of trading to get the ones you're missing, and B) the event Pokemon. That being said, if I get a chance to go to a Nintendo event I will totally bring my copy of Diamond with me. Hopefully E for All will count because I want to go to that anyway.

--- End quote ---

This isn't really the point I was going for.  I'm totally not one of those "they're the only REAL games" kind of guys, but they were the only ones I planned on buying for myself.  The only reason I have Gold is because my neighbor gave me an extra copy he had.  He got Crystal, so he gave me Gold and another friend got his Silver.  After I beat Gold I stoppaed caring for like 5 years, and now things are so different it's just ridiculous to me.  "S all.  I don't really have a problem with them, per se, they're just advanced as fuck compared to Blue and Gold, my two.  Also I don't have a DS.

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