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This Ain't A Console War, It's a Genocide (Sales Figures! Ooooh!)
ackblom12:
I want this cake!
est:
I am pretty happy that the PS3 is getting the spanking it deserves in the sales figures. Anyone who knows me knows that I am not a fanboy of any particular platform, but also that I hate Sony's increasingly arrogant and inept flailing.
Anyway, my contribution to the PC/Console debate is this: I play FPSes, RTSes, MMOs, some RPGs and some 3rd-person shooters/whatevers on the PC. I play sports, fighting, racing, 3rd-person shooters, RPGs, brawlers, platformers etc on the consoles. Up until the other day I owned one of each of the past gen consoles (traded the xbox and some games for a DS Lite) and will probably wind up getting at least the Wii and the 360. I have totally written the PS3 off until it becomes something approaching a good investment of my money.
With all of these purchases I'll still upgrade my PC so that I can continue to play the latest PC games, because it just doesn't feel right playing certain types of game on a console. I know that other people don't seem to have this problem though, and good for them.
Storm Rider:
My Nintendo fanboyism ended when I bought a PS2 three years ago. Console wars are stupid, there's no reason why the 3 companies currently in the business can't coexist. The only good thing about the constant atmosphere of competition is the pressure on the console-makers to produce excellent first-party games. I will say that the PS3 will be a substantially better investment if their holiday lineup turns out to be as good as it looks. Whether or not I'll finally give in largely depends on whether or not there are 60 GB models left, and/or whether or not the new 80 GB model will still be 600 dollars. The decision to buy a 360 at 400 was a difficult one for me a year ago, but I'm not going to pay 600 dollars for a console, full stop. The entire reason consoles are chosen over PCs by most people is because the monetary cost is much less, and Sony seems to have lost track of this.
aeMaeth:
I have several points to make here, each combating specific fallacies used in this discussion.
The PS2 was HORRIBLY undersold, until something magical happened. DVD's broke through and became mainstream. At that time the $300 ps2 was the cheapest fullscale stutterless DVD player out there. To get a good progressive scan DVD player back then was gonna cost you about what buying a ps3 costs now.
Sony did do something either really smart or really stupid, Personally I think they aren't as dumb as they appear. When the PS2 came out there was a backlash against sony back then as well. It paid off in the end. XBox only does HD-DVD so far, PS3 does Blu-ray. HD-DVD is the better of the two formats RIGHT NOW. but NOT next year. How long was it until the DVD reached the limit of it's capacity? 6 months? Blu-ray has alot longer life span before they have to make 3 Blu-Ray disc "Special Editions" HD-DVD as of today can barely contain full 1080p resolution full feature with 2 hours of extras. Blu-Ray? You get that 1080p, and you can also get the entire special features on it (hours upon hours upon hours, why do I get the sinking feeling that it's going to be Quintin Tarintino and George Lucas that will push the boundries of that aspect?) As well as a FULL game + a fuck ton room for alot of other shit. Blu-Ray will win out in the end, because of ease of use (Go buy a season of any TV show on HD-DVD you'll still end up with more than one DVD to sort through, where as it'll all fit on ONE FUCKING BLU-RAY!) Scalability, and the simple fact that not just Sony but alot of other Hollywood studios are behind it.
Next one, "PC games are becoming a niche market", I would have no issue with this but I didn't see a j/k after it.
Are you serious? REALLY SERIOUS? PC's are the only platform to play the most engaging to play and watch competitive games. Yes I know CGS has DOA and Project Gotham in it (yes xbox again ftw) BUT, Have you watched a PGR match? Short boring, no upsets, who takes the lead in the beginning keeps it, you get one chance to pass and if you miss you can't get there the rest of the match. Yes the skill level is amazing, but it's disinteresting after the first 30 friggan seconds, the rest of the match is just waiting for the win to be sealed.
The "REAL competitive video game" I speak of is of course Counter-Strike: Source. Though the community is a bit elitist (but what "niche community" that is being forced into the mainstream isn't? Remember how the internet was a few years back? You probably don't remember the communities back then. But you follow their lead. Emoticons, netspeak, 13375|>34|<, IM, BBS/Forums video games, CG animation, yeah blame those elitists back then for all that.) Now there's the emergence of a new professional sport, though the pay isn't as high as it's more "physical" brethren it will get there. Video games are coming of their own, you get to sit and watch it pass. But console games will NEVER be as competetive as PC games. The skill level isn't there. Yeah, the best and the worst in the world at a console game have a huge skill gap between them, but they are BOTH hampered by the controller, the Wii's controller is slowly getting to the intuitive and accurate nature of the PC's Mouse//keyboard.
This gap, if it can be called that it's more like a chasm, between skill levels for PC and Console Controller. There's a reason why bungee // microsoft don't allow for cross platform play. It's not a "compatibility issue" it's an "ownage" issue. Any halfassed decent pc player would STOMP the everlasting FUCK out of your random average XBL halo player. And of course there would be plenty of PC gamers out there willing to roast servers and clear them out for halo console players. (I myself would be one of them, if Halo 2 was crossplatform.) Anywho I'm losing my train of thought I figure I should trail off here....
No point, yes I made a forum account to post in this thread. Eh....
Storm Rider:
Because everybody cares about Counterstrike in this day and age. And everyone makes their video game purchasing decisions based on which platform has competitions. Pro gaming is a big, big deal and everybody pays attention to it.
Now I will give you a 'j/k'.
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